> > > > > > What would help comfort these fears?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have wrong thoughts sometimes. I think todo lists are still needed,
> > > > > but maybe our world is so capable that they aren't. Maybe it's more
> > > > > important why I have wrong thoughts. Although there are a handful of
> > > > > explanations, it's concerning that something mysterious may have
> > > > > stimulated the wrong thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > What seems more concerning is maybe that acting on that isn't happening.
> > > >
> > > > Karl's todo list (don't expect these things to happen!):
> > > > - [ ] make highly secure shielded rooms accessible to everyone 
> > > > including him
> > > We need to be safe from where-ever our "behavior modification built"
> > > habits came from.
> > > This means getting off the internet. Highly advanced digital security
> > > is much better.
> > > > - [ ] make treatment for severe abuse symptoms accessible to everyone
> > > > including him
> > > > - [... etc, tech-and-nature-focused
> > >
> > > But talking about that appropriately might not have been reaching
> > > Todo. We kept on building and researching ... but need to protect
> > > ourself better.
> >
> > Karl, because somebody is still actively harming you, whatever and
> > regardless of what you do, we need a todo list that prioritizes making
> > us personally more and more safe from things that would try to change
> > our decisions.
>
> Also protecting your family.

This has been a conflict for a long time but we've maybe finally
learned enough about it to sort a little bit of it out.

We need to go offline, not use devices, not interact with people who
use devices, etc. Does it not work?

[demands don't quite work ... options work
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