> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we watched part of start of OA again with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonconsenting person.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's charged energy around similarities and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences between
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OA's experience, our experience, and possibly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other experiences we've
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been exposed to.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very strong energy around miscasting of these 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in ways that can create
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > power dynamics inside me or alter my experience 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of identity
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of us is trying to figure out how to better 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traffick people based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the information :/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of us is trying to figure out how to better 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traffick people based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the information :/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of us is trying to figure out how to better 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traffick people based
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the information :/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes to more effectively destroy people's lives, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > enslave them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > massively, and amplify and spread any such existing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > operations. this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is something called an "introject", an alter that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > behaves like a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > perpatrator.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > things are quite strong here so it's hard to navigate 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to answer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > question requests. it basically lands in poor areas :\
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > but i think there's agreement that making a movie is a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > great thing,
> > > > > > > > > > > > very inspiring and empowering. really tells the right 
> > > > > > > > > > > > story,
> > > > > > > > > > > > demonstrating an ability to do that at all
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > it's true that something clearly nonfictional would be 
> > > > > > > > > > > more empowering.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > changeness
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1 difference focused
> > > > > > > > > karl gave up; the OA maybe transcended giving up and is in a 
> > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > space in the first episode, which more reminds karl of over a 
> > > > > > > > > decade
> > > > > > > > > ago
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > similar to where experimentee says forced to choose to die
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe in summary we'd like to repeatedly express that the OA 
> > > > > > > needed to
> > > > > > > be brought to a relational therapist specializing in dissociative
> > > > > > > identity disorder with successful experience treating ritual 
> > > > > > > abuse.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are only a handful of professionals whose job it is to both
> > > > > > > understand what the OA is experiencing and has experienced and 
> > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > her recover, and that is one of them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But pleasantly the show does continue to show empathic relation, 
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > is rare and hard and takes precise avenues because of 
> > > > > > > traumatically
> > > > > > > trained silence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this is not karl's only mistake by far.
> > > > > > here it sounds like karl means "any communication at all" by 
> > > > > > "empathic
> > > > > > relation" whereas "empathic relation" in normal communities means
> > > > > > "shared understanding"
> > > > > > maybe the show is supposed to build that later
> > > > >
> > > > > oops about larger/other thing, not immediately quoted thing
> > > >
> > > > expressed diverse pensation around trafficking vulnerable people like
> > > > escapees more
> > >
> > > Maybe in summary we'd like to repeatedly express that the OA needed to
> > > be brought to a relational therapist specializing in dissociative
> > > identity disorder with successful experience treating ritual abuse.
> >
> > I'm not quite sure what I'm experiencing here.
> > Concepts:
> > - I think I originally saw the OA prior to my exposure to extreme trauma.
>
> remainig concepts might not be helpful unsure, hear could be
> unexpected integration reducing something valued or something
>
> > - I think I might have heard that the OA could be related to a true
> > story, I don't really know.
> > - There are a _lot_ of true stories, they are _very_ intense and novel
> > and most have _not_ been made into movies
> > - My mcboss stories are _not_ true
> > - I do have a true story that is _different_ from the mcboss stories
> > - A lot of people have written books/autobiographies although most of
> > these are the less extreme things that are easier to think clearly
> > about and stimulate less serious danger to publish about

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