I think any requirement to show thinking in real time must apply to all programs equally. Otherwise some programs are at a disadvantage because they have to code a thinking display instead of making the program stronger.
David > -----Original Message----- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Erik van der Werf > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:26 AM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Rules for remote play at the Computer Olympiad > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Mark Boon <tesujisoftw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Erik van der Werf wrote: > >> Something else for the discussion. I would like to have a rule about > >> mandatory displaying the thinking process of the program so that both > >> operators have an idea of what is happening. Especially for remote > >> play I think this is needed because now it is just too trivial to > >> cheat. > > > > Do you want this just for 'remote' programs, or any program? > > Preferably any, but I'm naturally more suspicious of programs that > play remotely :-) > > Currently the rule is that logs must be made available to the TD on > request when there is a suspicion. However, it is hard to be precise > when no information is displayed during the game. > > > > What if the 'thinking process' is nothing intelligible for anyone else? Do > > we want to restrict programs made according to certain specifications which > > include that the thinking process is understandable? > > Well, most programs can in principle display the move they are > currently considering best, and usually also a principal variation, > winning probability, etc. > > When a program is radically different from anything else, cannot show > any intermediate results, and a conflict arises, then the author will > probably have to try to convince the TD, for example by showing the > source code. > > > > I don't know what the situation currently is in computer-Go, but I don't > > think the stakes are high enough to go over the trouble of cheating through > > a remote program (it's quite a lot of work). I have been accused of cheating > > once, but it was a rare thing to happen. > > With programs playing on KGS cheating is easy. > > Also, I think the stakes are increasing because we are now getting in > the low amateur dan-levels. > > Erik > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
