On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@univ-lille3.fr> wrote: > Erik van der Werf wrote: >> >> Hi Remi, >> >> There is a simpler solution: do not allow remote play at all. >> > > I would be in favor of this solution. But this has no chance to make > unanimity. Even with a strong majority in favor of that rule, Jaap would > probably not accept it, anyways.
Well, we could at least try to convince him. With a strong majority in favor and a list of all the things that went wrong in China we at least have a good case. >> As for stricter time controls; in principle I'm in favor. However, if >> you really want to enforce it we should have a real clock on the table >> like they have in the WCCC games. This would of course constitute a >> significant change from the usual relaxed (sloppy?) playing >> conditions... >> > > I believe we can still trust participants to count time correctly. Having to > use a real clock is too annoying. The problem is that the time info may simply be inaccessible when the connection breaks. > The best solution regarding time control is probably what is done in the UEC > Cup and EGC: connect programs to a server and let the server do time > control. That is indeed a nice solution. What software was used for the UEC cup? How did they deal with programs that could not connect to the server; did some play manually? >> For a 3-round playoff I would propose that the third game uses komi >> bidding (one operator is given the right to choose the komi, and the >> other then chooses whether to play Black or White). An alternative is >> to play 4 rounds and use board-points as a tie-breaker. >> > > I am strongly against board-points as a tie-breaker. Most MC programs only > optimize probability of winning. I don't like it much either; any tie breaker is bad in some sense, but I still prefer board-points over a coin-toss. >> In any case, I think the 9x9-komi should go back to 6.5. >> > > I think it was moved to 7.5 to allow automated play on KGS. I believe > allowing automated play on KGS with a strange komi is better than having no > KGS play and a normal komi. No, I originally proposed it because the official Chinese rules had switched to 7.5 komi. However, this was for 19x19 games. Anyway, I don't think the KGS restrictions are a good argument. Ideally we could persuade wms to have free komi setup under kgs-chinese rules, but otherwise it is still easy enough to let you program ignore the gtp-komi setup from kgs. Erik _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
