If you haven’t pulled one before, you may be startled by how fast water rushes 
in.  Remain calm, and have your blank handy.

From: Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:43 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Gary Nylander 
Subject: Re: Stus-List padwheel issues

Dan, there are a lot of us who regularly pull our speed transducers. You may 
get a pint of water inside (mine is under the dinette and drains into the 
bilge). Fear not. Get someone to spin the wheel and see if it works. 

 

Gary

30-1

 

From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:58 Am
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan <dgcorm...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List padwheel issues

 

I had a tech support ticket open with Actisense (the Digital NMEA product I'm 
using to read my data streams from my transducers) and they confirmed that if 
the padwheel is not spinning, NO data will be formed and no NMEA sentenses will 
be transmitted. SO - YES, the padwheel HAS to spin, and it's not a wiring issue 
(95% certain)... 

That said, I went out on deck and tried pulling a line along the underside of 
the hull to activate the wheel and tried using oars to move the water around 
the waterline but then it started to rain so I gave up the attempt. The only 
other non-evasive method is to get in the dinghy and try to reach the wheel 
with my hand... or bite the bullet and try pulling the sensor out completely 
and replacing it with the plug which to me sounds like extremely risky business 
but you guys seem to think it's a breeze...

 

WISH ME LUCK!

 

Dan

 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

  What Ed says. 

   

  I never leave Touché’s paddle wheel in. Only put it in when we go sailing. 

   

  Dennis C.

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Edward Levert via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

    Dan

     

    You should have a plug which allows you to remove the transducer with the 
boat in the water. Simple process of pulling the transducer and inserting the 
plug. If done quickly, you might let 2 cups of water in. Will need a person 
spinning the paddle and one looking at the instrument.

     

    Ed Levert

    C&C 34 Briar Patch

    New Orleans

     

    On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 8:30 AM Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

      Thanks guys.

      Difficult to get the padwheel moving when the boat is in the slip and 
there's no current lol.

      I can try sticking my outboard motor in front of the boat and gunning it 
to get the water flowing... or I can get in the dinghy and try to reach under 
to spin the wheel manually...

       

      Before I do that - I have a digital readout of my NMEA 0183 sentences so 
I can analyze the readouts line by line. I don't even have a readout for 
"0.0.0" on the speed (or any speed data at all) I'm wonderring IF the padweel 
isn't turning, it will literally give back NO data / sentences at all? not even 
a "0.0.0"?

       

      Dan

       

      On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:58 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

        I also had a paddlewheel issue caused by bottom paint.  I did not 
discover the nature of the problem was until the boat was out of the water.

         

        From: Edward Levert via CnC-List 

        Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 8:50 AM

        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

        Cc: Edward Levert 

        Subject: Re: Stus-List padwheel issues

         

        Dan

         

        The paddle wheel needs to spin to get a reading. I have an Airmar 
transducer for the ST 60. It stopped giving speed readings even though the 
paddle was clean and rotated easily. A new paddle solved the issue. My guess is 
that the build up of bottom paint was blocking the impulse signal the paddle 
creates. Perhaps scrapping the paddle free of paint might solve your problem.

         

        Ed Levert

        C&C 34 Briar Patch

        New Orleans

         

        On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:39 AM Dan via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

          Hi all, I have a ST850 Airmar speed/temperature transducer that I'm 
trying to get working (again) with my new equipment. I'm pretty sure the issue 
is with the wiring so if any of you have this transducer maybe you know where 
I'm going wrong?

           

          ***My ST850 is from 2006 so I'm pretty sure it's not the "smart 
sensor" one that is supposed to output NMEA2000 sentences directly.

           

          With my old system ONLY the green wire was hooked up to a B&G nav 
computer and the black and shield were connected to ground. (no temperature 
data)

           

          I've got:

          GREEN to Speed Pulse IN (not sure what "pulse" is ecactly)

          Black, and Shield to Ground IN

          Red to Speed Voltage IN

          Yellow/Red Stripe to Temp IN

          Brown to nothing

           

          With this configuration I'm getting Temperature NMEA sentences, but 
no Speed. Anyone know where I'm going wrong? Does the padwheel have to be 
turning to get speed sentences?

           

          Dan

          Breakaweigh

          C&C44

          Halifax, NS

           

           

           

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