I still find it a little unnerving to swap the paddle wheel out with a plug—you 
and your cabin sole will definitely get wet no matter how practiced you are.

OTOH, neither you nor the sole will melt or wash away and the brief gusher 
gives you an idea of why a holed bottom will overcome ANY bulge pump, manual or 
electric.

I am not able to do this with one hand however. Once the gusher begins, I hold 
onto the plug with both hands to fight the water pressure and align/screw in 
the plug. 
If I am not immediately successful, I put the paddle wheel back in and figure 
out what went wrong!

Charlie Nelson
C&C 36XL/kcb
Water Phantom

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On Thursday, October 11, 2018, Edward Levert via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Dan

Had first time worried back in the 1970’s. Pull the transducer with one hand 
and inset the plug with the other. Good luck

Ed Levert


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On Oct 11, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I had a tech support ticket open with Actisense (the Digital NMEA product I'm 
using to read my data streams from my transducers) and they confirmed that if 
the padwheel is not spinning, NO data will be formed and no NMEA sentenses will 
be transmitted. SO - YES, the padwheel HAS to spin, and it's not a wiring issue 
(95% certain)... 
That said, I went out on deck and tried pulling a line along the underside of 
the hull to activate the wheel and tried using oars to move the water around 
the waterline but then it started to rain so I gave up the attempt. The only 
other non-evasive method is to get in the dinghy and try to reach the wheel 
with my hand... or bite the bullet and try pulling the sensor out completely 
and replacing it with the plug which to me sounds like extremely risky business 
but you guys seem to think it's a breeze...

WISH ME LUCK!

Dan

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
What Ed says. 

I never leave Touché’s paddle wheel in. Only put it in when we go sailing. 

Dennis C.

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On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Edward Levert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Dan

You should have a plug which allows you to remove the transducer with the boat 
in the water. Simple process of pulling the transducer and inserting the plug. 
If done quickly, you might let 2 cups of water in. Will need a person spinning 
the paddle and one looking at the instrument.

Ed Levert
C&C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 8:30 AM Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Thanks guys.
Difficult to get the padwheel moving when the boat is in the slip and there's 
no current lol.
I can try sticking my outboard motor in front of the boat and gunning it to get 
the water flowing... or I can get in the dinghy and try to reach under to spin 
the wheel manually...

Before I do that - I have a digital readout of my NMEA 0183 sentences so I can 
analyze the readouts line by line. I don't even have a readout for "0.0.0" on 
the speed (or any speed data at all) I'm wonderring IF the padweel isn't 
turning, it will literally give back NO data / sentences at all? not even a 
"0.0.0"?

Dan

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:58 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I also had a paddlewheel issue caused by bottom paint.  I did not discover the 
nature of the problem was until the boat was out of the water.
 
From: Edward Levert via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 8:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Edward Levert
Subject: Re: Stus-List padwheel issues
 
Dan
 
The paddle wheel needs to spin to get a reading. I have an Airmar transducer 
for the ST 60. It stopped giving speed readings even though the paddle was 
clean and rotated easily. A new paddle solved the issue. My guess is that the 
build up of bottom paint was blocking the impulse signal the paddle creates. 
Perhaps scrapping the paddle free of paint might solve your problem.
 
Ed Levert
C&C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans
 
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:39 AM Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi all, I have a ST850 Airmar speed/temperature transducer that I'm trying to 
get working (again) with my new equipment. I'm pretty sure the issue is with 
the wiring so if any of you have this transducer maybe you know where I'm going 
wrong?
 
***My ST850 is from 2006 so I'm pretty sure it's not the "smart sensor" one 
that is supposed to output NMEA2000 sentences directly.
 
With my old system ONLY the green wire was hooked up to a B&G nav computer and 
the black and shield were connected to ground. (no temperature data)
 
I've got:
GREEN to Speed Pulse IN (not sure what "pulse" is ecactly)
Black, and Shield to Ground IN
Red to Speed Voltage IN
Yellow/Red Stripe to Temp IN
Brown to nothing
 
With this configuration I'm getting Temperature NMEA sentences, but no    
Speed. Anyone know where I'm going wrong? Does the padwheel have to be turning 
to get speed sentences?
 
Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
 
 

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