Hi Steve,

I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list of the Newport heater. It can be tricky.

The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The D2 has a huge advantage on heat output on low settings, not to be overlooked. The Admiral & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.

Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with proper venting is the same for both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The tank can be almost anywhere for either unit and if elevation is such that gravity feed is not going to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a little impulse pump similar to what the Espar uses. I would see about putting the tank in the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and easy to fit a deck fill to keep everything outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the D2.

On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement cruising I will have both types of heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1
        Vancouver Island


At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
Thanks for the helpful replies, all.

Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be honest, I like the idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my favourite things. But the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove types, which are super nice, but I can't justify the expense and they have drawbacks on a boat. The espar is appealing because it's out of the way. The problem for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an A4 powered boat and one thing I really like about my boat is that it doesn't smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space, maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned about the diesel smell. Most of what I've read about them is good however and to your point, maybe more heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will my boat smell like diesel?Â

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.Â

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine


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On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Steve,
 I have an espar installed by po, no problems in five years. But, does have significant current draw at start up. I need to start engine to fire up unless on shore power. After it gets going no problem. Outlet in main cabin, v berth and head.Â
Bill Walker
Pentwater Mi
CnCÂ  36

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On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(

My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up there.Â

I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend money that could go elsewhere.Â

The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.Â

I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from others who have gone through it.Â

Thanks,

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


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