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Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2016-02-06 11:58 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
One of our fellow CnC listers did a Hydronic install in his own boat and had an article published in the magazine Good Old Boat about it:


      HOT WATER, WARM BOAT
      BY GRAHAM COLLINS

A hydronic system extends the sailing (and showering) season. Our C&C 35, Secret Plans, was previously used as a racing boat, so the hot-water system was stripped out at some time before we purchased her. As I’m not a fan of cold showers, this had to be addressed. We also wanted to be able to heat the boat so we could extend our cruising season a bit longer into the spring and fall. We keep the boat on a mooring, so shorepower is not typically available. The available fuel sources were diesel and propane, and we wanted to install only one system...

*Article Number:* 5583
*Issue:* 86 - September/October 2012
*Page No:* 27-29
*Read Online:* Not Available Online


On 6 February 2016 at 11:48, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

    Speaking of diesel heaters, ever since we brought Alera out from
    Lake Ontario I have wanted to install a hydronic heater so that in
    addition to heat we would have hot water.  So, every year when I
    go to the Seattle Boat show I gather materials and every the the
    amount of boat bucks, and my fear of screwing the installation up
    makes me put it off another year.

    Anyone have a hydronic setup?

    Tom Buscaglia
    S/V Alera
    1990 C&C 37+/40
    Vashon WA
    P 206.463.9200 <tel:206.463.9200>


    > On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:24 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
    >
    > Message: 8
    > Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:23:56 -0800
    > From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net <mailto:russ...@telus.net>>
    > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
    > Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation
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    >
    > Hi Steve,
    >
    > I should have listed install location in the
    > "Cons:" list of the Newport heater. It can be tricky.
    >
    > The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead
    > unit. The D2 has a huge advantage on heat output
    > on low settings, not to be overlooked. The
    > Admiral & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be
    overlooked.
    >
    > Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank
    > location with proper venting is the same for
    > both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The
    > tank can be almost anywhere for either unit and
    > if elevation is such that gravity feed is not
    > going to work for the bulkhead heater then you
    > get a little impulse pump similar to what the
    > Espar uses. I would see about putting the tank in
    > the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and
    > easy to fit a deck fill to keep everything
    > outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon
    > tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day
    > use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the D2.
    >
    > On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for
    > retirement cruising I will have both types of
    > heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)
    >
    >         Cheers, Russ
    >         Sweet 35 mk-1
    >         Vancouver Island
    >
    >
    > At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
    >> Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
    >>
    >> Russ, I really love the idea of the newport
    >> heaters, to be honest, I like the idea of solid
    >> fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my
    >> favourite things. But the only units worth
    >> getting are expensive wood stove types, which
    >> are super nice, but I can't justify the expense
    >> and they have drawbacks on a boat. The espar is
    >> appealing because it's out of the way. The
    >> problem for me with the diesel newport is the
    >> fuel. I have an A4 powered boat and one thing I
    >> really like about my boat is that it doesn't
    >> smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater
    >> would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere
    >> inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space,
    >> maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned about
    >> the diesel smell. Most of what I've read about
    >> them is good however and to your point, maybe
    >> more heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's
    >> still an option, will my boat smell like diesel??
    >>
    >> Steve
    >> Suhana, C&C 32
    >> Toronto
    >>
    >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton
    >> via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
    >> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use
    >> a propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6
    >> hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat.
    >> It takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy
    Maine evening.?
    >>
    >> Andy
    >> C&C 40
    >> Peregrine
    >>
    >>
    >> Andrew Burton
    >> PO Box 632
    >> Newport, RI?
    >> USA 02840
    >>
    >> +401 965? 5260

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