I wonder if anyone is installing/using solid fuel cabin heaters
nowadays?  Alianna came to me with a Cole stove mounted on the Port
cabin bulkhead right beside the mast...charcoal briquettes throw off a
good heat and it's sort of like having a little fireplace inside the
boat, some ambiance in addition to nice heat, but I must admit I have
only use it a few times when living aboard on cool damp nights.
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net



On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Calypso has had a Webasto T90 for 16 years.  Late last year it needed its 
> first tune up.  We use the Webasto all year, even cruising in summer to take 
> the evening chill off.  We did install a "summer" valve that allows use to 
> stop the hot water flow to the cabin heat exchangers but have rarely used it.
>
> The T90 is able to make the boat's cabin as warm as we can stand.  From a 
> ambient 55/60F to 70F takes about 20 minutes.
>
> Installation was a 1/2 DIY, 1/2 tech from Sure Marine.  We purchased the Sure 
> Marine installation package that included step by step instructions and many 
> of the needed fittings.
>
> The current draw is highest at start up.  After the coolant is at temp the 
> number fans (on high or low, 3 locations) and a circulation pump are the main 
> current draw.  Calypso's house bank is 4 6v batteries and the furnace can 
> typically run 4 to 5 hours without a charging session.  Running less heat 
> exchangers/fans may extend the time.
>
> For domestic hot water we installed an "Everhot" heat exchanger that acts 
> like a coolant reservoir and heats the water for galley and shower use.  We 
> are able to make as much hot water as what is in the boat's tanks.
>
> Most of the DIY installation time was running the coolant hoses and 
> installing the heat exchangers.  We had the pros perform the finish plumbing, 
> wiring, and run the exhaust.  The furnace itself is compact but the overflow 
> tank and the Everhot tank take up some lazerette space.  We ran the hoses 
> thru the bilge.  The fuel has its own feed direct from the tank.
>
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle
>
> ________________________________________
> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Tom Buscaglia via 
> CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 7:48 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia
> Subject: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation
>
> Speaking of diesel heaters, ever since we brought Alera out from Lake Ontario 
> I have wanted to install a hydronic heater so that in addition to heat we 
> would have hot water.  So, every year when I go to the Seattle Boat show I 
> gather materials and every the the amount of boat bucks, and my fear of 
> screwing the installation up makes me put it off another year.
>
> Anyone have a hydronic setup?
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
>
>
>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:24 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:23:56 -0800
>> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation
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>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I should have listed install location in the
>> "Cons:" list of the Newport heater. It can be tricky.
>>
>> The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead
>> unit. The D2 has a huge advantage on heat output
>> on low settings, not to be overlooked. The
>> Admiral & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.
>>
>> Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank
>> location with proper venting is the same for
>> both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The
>> tank can be almost anywhere for either unit and
>> if elevation is such that gravity feed is not
>> going to work for the bulkhead heater then you
>> get a little impulse pump similar to what the
>> Espar uses. I would see about putting the tank in
>> the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and
>> easy to fit a deck fill to keep everything
>> outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon
>> tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day
>> use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the D2.
>>
>> On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for
>> retirement cruising I will have both types of
>> heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)
>>
>>         Cheers, Russ
>>         Sweet 35 mk-1
>>         Vancouver Island
>>
>>
>> At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
>>> Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
>>>
>>> Russ, I really love the idea of the newport
>>> heaters, to be honest, I like the idea of solid
>>> fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my
>>> favourite things. But the only units worth
>>> getting are expensive wood stove types, which
>>> are super nice, but I can't justify the expense
>>> and they have drawbacks on a boat. The espar is
>>> appealing because it's out of the way. The
>>> problem for me with the diesel newport is the
>>> fuel. I have an A4 powered boat and one thing I
>>> really like about my boat is that it doesn't
>>> smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater
>>> would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere
>>> inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space,
>>> maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned about
>>> the diesel smell. Most of what I've read about
>>> them is good however and to your point, maybe
>>> more heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's
>>> still an option, will my boat smell like diesel??
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> Suhana, C&C 32
>>> Toronto
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton
>>> via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use
>>> a propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6
>>> hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat.
>>> It takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine 
>>> evening.?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> C&C 40
>>> Peregrine
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> PO Box 632
>>> Newport, RI?
>>> USA 02840
>>>
>>> +401 965? 5260
>
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