Tom,

Calypso has had a Webasto T90 for 16 years.  Late last year it needed its first 
tune up.  We use the Webasto all year, even cruising in summer to take the 
evening chill off.  We did install a "summer" valve that allows use to stop the 
hot water flow to the cabin heat exchangers but have rarely used it.

The T90 is able to make the boat's cabin as warm as we can stand.  From a 
ambient 55/60F to 70F takes about 20 minutes.

Installation was a 1/2 DIY, 1/2 tech from Sure Marine.  We purchased the Sure 
Marine installation package that included step by step instructions and many of 
the needed fittings.

The current draw is highest at start up.  After the coolant is at temp the 
number fans (on high or low, 3 locations) and a circulation pump are the main 
current draw.  Calypso's house bank is 4 6v batteries and the furnace can 
typically run 4 to 5 hours without a charging session.  Running less heat 
exchangers/fans may extend the time.

For domestic hot water we installed an "Everhot" heat exchanger that acts like 
a coolant reservoir and heats the water for galley and shower use.  We are able 
to make as much hot water as what is in the boat's tanks.

Most of the DIY installation time was running the coolant hoses and installing 
the heat exchangers.  We had the pros perform the finish plumbing, wiring, and 
run the exhaust.  The furnace itself is compact but the overflow tank and the 
Everhot tank take up some lazerette space.  We ran the hoses thru the bilge.  
The fuel has its own feed direct from the tank.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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Subject: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

Speaking of diesel heaters, ever since we brought Alera out from Lake Ontario I 
have wanted to install a hydronic heater so that in addition to heat we would 
have hot water.  So, every year when I go to the Seattle Boat show I gather 
materials and every the the amount of boat bucks, and my fear of screwing the 
installation up makes me put it off another year.

Anyone have a hydronic setup?

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:24 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:23:56 -0800
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation
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> Hi Steve,
>
> I should have listed install location in the
> "Cons:" list of the Newport heater. It can be tricky.
>
> The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead
> unit. The D2 has a huge advantage on heat output
> on low settings, not to be overlooked. The
> Admiral & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.
>
> Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank
> location with proper venting is the same for
> both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The
> tank can be almost anywhere for either unit and
> if elevation is such that gravity feed is not
> going to work for the bulkhead heater then you
> get a little impulse pump similar to what the
> Espar uses. I would see about putting the tank in
> the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and
> easy to fit a deck fill to keep everything
> outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon
> tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day
> use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the D2.
>
> On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for
> retirement cruising I will have both types of
> heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)
>
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
>         Vancouver Island
>
>
> At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
>> Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
>>
>> Russ, I really love the idea of the newport
>> heaters, to be honest, I like the idea of solid
>> fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my
>> favourite things. But the only units worth
>> getting are expensive wood stove types, which
>> are super nice, but I can't justify the expense
>> and they have drawbacks on a boat. The espar is
>> appealing because it's out of the way. The
>> problem for me with the diesel newport is the
>> fuel. I have an A4 powered boat and one thing I
>> really like about my boat is that it doesn't
>> smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater
>> would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere
>> inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space,
>> maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned about
>> the diesel smell. Most of what I've read about
>> them is good however and to your point, maybe
>> more heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's
>> still an option, will my boat smell like diesel??
>>
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> Toronto
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton
>> via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use
>> a propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6
>> hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat.
>> It takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.?
>>
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>>
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> PO Box 632
>> Newport, RI?
>> USA 02840
>>
>> +401 965? 5260

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