Eric:  
This is an active topic this time of year......... but I'd make sure you are
reading your regs, correctly.  
Here in New England, the Handicapping section of the website www.nephrf.org
specifically discusses using an ASYM vs SYM spinnakers.

Basically, if you race in a fleet with spinnakers, using an ASYM, there is
no penalty to your racing rating.  If you then disclose that you "have no
pole" you get a 9 sec. allowance added to your racing rating.

If, however, you decide to use a "sprit" you can go 10% of the J dimension
without a penalty, for every 10% additional, you get a 3 second penalty.  

I've had this reviewed for my 38MKIIC with a 16.5' "J".  the longest I can
go beyond the tack fitting is 19.2" ....anything longer incurs a penalty.  

Someone mentioned the furling ASYM systems..........which are really nifty.
The issue for boats without a sprit is that that clearance at the top often
binds and it gets hairy when rolling up the ASYM.  You'd have to add a
"crane" out in front of the current mast plate to accommodate both furlers
at the top.  Additionally, the stresses on the sprit pole is significant
since the "torsion rope luff" needs to be tensioned very tight..as someone
also said, these systems are evolving and may need some time to mature.

Agreed, however, on the Selden system.....excellent materials and design..

Good luck with your project, just check the details of the rating system in
your area.

Best,

Ron C.
Impromptu
C&C 38MKIIC  '77


-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Will
Harris
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 11:26 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List bowsprit/asym

For the boats you guys are talking about, C&C 34, C&C 40s etc., in 
fairness you should get a hefty PHRF CREDIT, for switching to asyms.  
You guys can cream the sprit boats dead down in moderate breeze.  Just 
pull the pole back and aim for the mark.

I sailed an RCYC Open a few years back on a really well-sailed Bene 
10.4, ( awful boat... but I digress).
"Red Jacket" was in our class and we owed her a bunch of time.  We'd 
dust her upwind, then go reaching around on our gybe angles.  She'd 
round behind, square back and just grind our bendy, french asses into dust.

If it was a 5 leg course, we had a chance. Downwind finish??... 
fageddaboudit.

Not all PHRF committees have figured this out.  If you do switch, your 
rating should get significantly BETTER.  Sadly, it probably won't.

-- 
Will Harris
Waterline Systems

716-531-6088


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