Eric - Got it. When the Js get on a plane there isn't a lot you can do. I still wouldn't go back to syms. Asyms are so much easier and a lot more efficient sail when reaching - which we're doing 90% of the time off the wind.
Good luck with the project. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Baumes Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 1:22 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Bowsprit/Asym Hi Pete, Our fleet is turning sprit. We have: Sprit/Asym: J-109 J-97 J-92 J-88 Evelyn 32 with retro sprit Symmetrical: C&C 34/36 Tripp 37 Tripp 37c Olson 30 No plans at this point to fly a code Zero at this point. Best, Eric ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________ "I want 10,000 tough guys, and I want 10,000 soft guys to make the tough guys look tougher! And here's how I want them arranged: tough, soft, tough, tough, soft, tough, soft, soft, tough, tough, soft, soft, tough, soft, tough, soft!" Russ Cargill On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Pete Shelquist <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> wrote: Eric - I'm going through the same exercise right now. We've been racing 2 yrs with an asym not on a sprit but tacked to the forepeak. We mostly do mid-distance/point to point races and less frequently do buoys. We've had good luck in the light air around here, but struggle against the sym boats when the mark is DDW and its blowing. PHRF in our area is a little more generous at 30% when adding a sprit. As you mentioned, we found we can run the boat with as few at 3 or 4. Ironically, the boat is so easy and fast in this mode we seem to always have 6-8. Which is not a bad thing- we just make more sandwiches. >From what I've found, Forte seems to have the best turn-key solution http://fortecarbon.com/marine/bow-poles-sprits/ and they're pretty helpful on the phone . But it's also pricey. I'm working with a local manufacturer to figure out an alternative. I'm also using the J105 and J109 as models and reverse engineering from there. Getting a decent kite is the real trick. Different sail makers have conflicting thoughts on design when retroing boats like ours with asyms. Also, seriously try to figure out a bobstay, especially if you ever have intentions of putting up a code 0. Hope that helps. Pete C&C 37 - Lk Superior From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Baumes Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:08 AM To: cc-3...@googlegroups.com; cnc-list Subject: Stus-List Bowsprit/Asym Hi all, My winter project this year is to install a deck mounted bowsprit and fly an asymmetric spinnaker while racing. I am going for the max length with out a PHRF penalty, which in our YRA is 24% of J. This will give me a sprit that is 42.6 inches. This decision is driven by a couple things. First, the ability to get 7 or more experienced crew to manage the Symmetrical spinnaker. And to reduce the overall complexity in sailing the boat. I am wondering if any one else has made this switch and what their experience has been. I will certainly share my experience. Best, Eric C&C 34/36 ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________ "I want 10,000 tough guys, and I want 10,000 soft guys to make the tough guys look tougher! And here's how I want them arranged: tough, soft, tough, tough, soft, tough, soft, soft, tough, tough, soft, soft, tough, soft, tough, soft!" Russ Cargill _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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