Agreed Joel, Over all I was disappointed with what a standard survey included. I had two in less than a month on two different boats with different surveyors. If not for needing it for the financing I would opt next time for an engine and rigging survey alone. I can swing a moisture meter, and verify the systems "work". There is probably an "inspection check" list for free on the internet that would be as helpful as the surveyors were.
Josh -- Want to email me privately? Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard Then get my public key at: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit On Feb 26, 2013 10:32 PM, "Joel Aronson" <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > You might also want to consider a rigging survey. My surveyor could not > see a broken tang. Luckily I had a furler installed, so my rigger saw it > before I lost the rig. It was an expensive, unwelcome surprise. > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The haul and launch are sold as a pair so the previous haul covers the > launch. But if you don't buy then you are responsible for putting it back > on the hard. Other than that all costs are yours. That's kinda why you > want a contract...so that the money you are investing can't be sold out > from under you. The owner would normally make the boat ready for sale and > sail but in this case the brokerage will get the yard to do it. I would > expect that they pay to make it ready but you pay to re-winterize. > > A good reason for a sea-trial is to run the engine. Running it on the > hard is difficult and WILL NOT reveal 100% of the potential problems. You > need full throttle runs. I even suggest full throttle while tied to the > dock. During this test watch the shaft seal. Watch for black smoke. > Listen for vibration. Check for proper alternator current. If the prop is > set correctly you probably won't get full RPM (3200-3600), there is just > too much load. Once that is complete, motor out and get to full throttle. > Now you should be able to get to full rated RPM. Find out what the hull > speed is prior to the sea trial. Compare how close you are able to get. A > properly adjusted prop will get you to hull speed at about full RPM. > Remember all the drive train together could cost more than $10k. Think you > don't need an engine? Think again. I was forced to deliver mine 350 miles > without one. I needed it! > > The sea trial also gives a better idea of the sail condition. You can't > tell if a sail is "blown out" until you sail it. You may not find problems > with the running rigging or the furler until they are put to use. > Electronics might reveal problems too. Depth sounder, auto helm, GPS, > radar, speed log. If it has any of these devices, there value is a big fat > zero if there is ANY hiccup. > > Josh Muckley > > -- > Want to email me privately? Check out: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard > Then get my public key at: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit > On Feb 26, 2013 9:25 PM, "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You guys are fabulous and one of the reasons I am excited that the boat >> we are likely to end up with turns out to be another C&C. I really >> appreciate all the advice. One question from the responses- the sea trial. >> The boat is on the hard with rig up and engine winterized. It had not >> occurred to me that we would throw it in the water in February (March by >> the time this would happen) and go for a motor/sail- it is still pretty >> cold up here, but it makes sense. I can see the importance of this to run >> the engine and check the prop (Maxprop), and I like the idea of an engine >> survey, but what else? It will sail like a C&C, so what are the specific >> goals of the sea trial? I gather that it would then be hauled again and >> re-winterized? Who pays for the launching, prepping, hauling and >> re-winterizing? Thanks- Dave >> >> David Knecht >> 50 Farmstead Rd. >> Storrs, CT 06268 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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