I second pretty much everything said so far. A contract subject to survey, engine inspection, rigging inspection and sea trial can save you from a bad boat. It will cost more, but still be way better than a bad buy! And no matter how much you really "want" the boat you are looking at, don't hesitate to walk.
I have had varied results with surveyors. Between Jubillee (our 35 MK 1), the 37+ I passed on after it failed a sea trial, and Alera, the quality of the surveys vary a great deal. The ability to do the full moisture analysis is especially important, as stated already. The best survey I got was on Jubilee and the surveyor actually specialized in commercial fishing vessels. His did not have much sailboat savvy, but he was thorough and provided a punch list of everything that needed to be done including photos, which was a huge help for us as rookies. And no matter how good the surveyor is, and how little you think you know, follow them through the process and do your own back up. Ask questions and press them throughout the process. Everyone has an off day. The toughest thing you will have to deal with the possibility of no sea trial. It saved my ass on one possible purchase when we were looking for our 37+. Than, we bought Alera without one. She was on the hard at Niagara on the Lake in November. iBut she only had 480 hrs on the engine and had obviously been babied. Also, my brother was familiar with her and her PO. Gert Teil's survey was not very detailed at all, but since both he and several others involved in the sale were C&C factory veterans, I still had a high comfort level. If things had been different, it might have been prudent to pay the cost related to taking her out. But my gut told me she was our boat! Finally, don't let the broker push you or rush you...not in this market. I have had brokers push back on a request for anything more than a few weeks to get everything done. But you should ask for as much time as you need with a pad because shit happens. One last thing...listen to your heart...if she's your boat, she'll speak to you. Tom Buscaglia Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA On Feb 27, 2013, at 5:54 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Boat buying tips (Us) > 2. Re: Babystay adjuster (Ted Drossos) > 3. Re: Boat buying tips (Josh Muckley) > 4. Re: Boat buying tips (Joel Aronson) > 5. Re: Boat buying tips (Josh Muckley) > 6. Re: Boat buying tips (Marek Dziedzic) > 7. Re: More Half-Hull Model Updates (Paul Baker) > 8. Re: More Half-Hull Model Updates (Andrew Burton) > 9. Re: More Half-Hull Model Updates (djhaug...@juno.com) > 10. Re: More Half-Hull Model Updates (Andrew Burton) > 11. Re: More Half-Hull Model Updates (djhaug...@juno.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:18:47 -0500 > From: Us <djmo...@bellsouth.net> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat buying tips > Message-ID: <4e1bdd64-fa23-4d2a-be1f-bc67b5168...@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > David and I looked for a C&C 37/40+ boat for over two years to find the right > one for us (condition), and while I agree with the volume of advice you have > received, there is one area that wasn't covered. (Please excuse me) We hired > a naval architect that performs surveys using a Flir thermal imaging camera > so we could look thru the fiberglass at the balsa core. A wet core shows up > as a different color. We wanted to make sure that she was the right one in > every way. > > C&C makes an awesome boat, their performance has been unsurpassed in racing > and cruising from the first 40' we sailed to Block Island in the 70's to our > 1983 29 MKII, the C &C 99 we crewed/raced on for 5 years, and the 37/40+ we > have owned/raced & cruised for 1.5 years. Construction is solid compared to > other models and in the case of our 1990 vintage, we were pleased to find the > thru hulls do not have any balsa core around them. > > We echo what you have been told in the email strings below but also add that > having a surveyor that has a thermal imaging camera is huge. > > The end result is a boat that points like nobody's business and weather > racing or cruising does so beautifully. > > Good luck to you in your search and negotiations, may you have fair winds... > > > Joanne & David > Obsession > 37/40+ > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 26, 2013, at 9:24 PM, David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You guys are fabulous and one of the reasons I am excited that the boat we >> are likely to end up with turns out to be another C&C. I really appreciate >> all the advice. One question from the responses- the sea trial. The boat >> is on the hard with rig up and engine winterized. It had not occurred to me >> that we would throw it in the water in February (March by the time this >> would happen) and go for a motor/sail- it is still pretty cold up here, but >> it makes sense. I can see the importance of this to run the engine and check >> the prop (Maxprop), and I like the idea of an engine survey, but what else? >> It will sail like a C&C, so what are the specific goals of the sea trial? I >> gather that it would then be hauled again and re-winterized? Who pays for >> the launching, prepping, hauling and re-winterizing? Thanks- Dave >> >> David Knecht >> 50 Farmstead Rd. >> Storrs, CT 06268 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/b27448e4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:25:11 -0500 > From: Ted Drossos <replus...@aol.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Babystay adjuster > Message-ID: <76635b98-6ff2-47ea-b07a-f34eedeb6...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My 29-2 came with a 4:1 purchase block and tackle baby stay adjuster. It was > an option in lieu of the standard equipment fixed babystay with a turnbuckle. > I upgraded to a Harken B500 mechanical adjuster, the type where tension can > be increased or decreased by inserting a standard winch handle into the unit > and cranking a few revolutions. > http://www.harken.com/productcategory.aspx?taxid=387 > > This is a very powerful piece of hardware and will easily work with much > larger boats. One of the nice parts about this system is that I can tell any > crew member to put exactly the number of turns on the handle that I want. > Tension/mast bend settings are easily repeatable. We never have to put more > than 10 revolutions on it so it's pretty fast to adjust. I have a snap > shackle at the bottom of the adjuster which clips onto the babystay chain > plate making it easily removable. > > Sent from my iPad > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/63f95ea8/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:27:16 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat buying tips > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRA9ve-j30shD1mAszxdnr9VWZNY6ZMY=auf+-0ykwb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The haul and launch are sold as a pair so the previous haul covers the > launch. But if you don't buy then you are responsible for putting it back > on the hard. Other than that all costs are yours. That's kinda why you > want a contract...so that the money you are investing can't be sold out > from under you. The owner would normally make the boat ready for sale and > sail but in this case the brokerage will get the yard to do it. I would > expect that they pay to make it ready but you pay to re-winterize. > > A good reason for a sea-trial is to run the engine. Running it on the hard > is difficult and WILL NOT reveal 100% of the potential problems. You need > full throttle runs. I even suggest full throttle while tied to the dock. > During this test watch the shaft seal. Watch for black smoke. Listen for > vibration. Check for proper alternator current. If the prop is set > correctly you probably won't get full RPM (3200-3600), there is just too > much load. Once that is complete, motor out and get to full throttle. Now > you should be able to get to full rated RPM. Find out what the hull speed > is prior to the sea trial. Compare how close you are able to get. A > properly adjusted prop will get you to hull speed at about full RPM. > Remember all the drive train together could cost more than $10k. Think you > don't need an engine? Think again. I was forced to deliver mine 350 miles > without one. I needed it! > > The sea trial also gives a better idea of the sail condition. You can't > tell if a sail is "blown out" until you sail it. You may not find problems > with the running rigging or the furler until they are put to use. > Electronics might reveal problems too. Depth sounder, auto helm, GPS, > radar, speed log. If it has any of these devices, there value is a big fat > zero if there is ANY hiccup. > > Josh Muckley > > -- > Want to email me privately? Check out: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard > Then get my public key at: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit > On Feb 26, 2013 9:25 PM, "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You guys are fabulous and one of the reasons I am excited that the boat we >> are likely to end up with turns out to be another C&C. I really appreciate >> all the advice. One question from the responses- the sea trial. The boat >> is on the hard with rig up and engine winterized. It had not occurred to >> me that we would throw it in the water in February (March by the time this >> would happen) and go for a motor/sail- it is still pretty cold up here, but >> it makes sense. I can see the importance of this to run the engine and >> check the prop (Maxprop), and I like the idea of an engine survey, but what >> else? It will sail like a C&C, so what are the specific goals of the sea >> trial? I gather that it would then be hauled again and re-winterized? Who >> pays for the launching, prepping, hauling and re-winterizing? Thanks- Dave >> >> David Knecht >> 50 Farmstead Rd. >> Storrs, CT 06268 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/f8d73b9c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:32:29 -0500 > From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat buying tips > Message-ID: <1943351833705713510@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You might also want to consider a rigging survey. My surveyor could not > see a broken tang. Luckily I had a furler installed, so my rigger saw it > before I lost the rig. It was an expensive, unwelcome surprise. > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The haul and launch are sold as a pair so the previous haul covers the > launch. But if you don't buy then you are responsible for putting it back > on the hard. Other than that all costs are yours. That's kinda why you > want a contract...so that the money you are investing can't be sold out > from under you. The owner would normally make the boat ready for sale and > sail but in this case the brokerage will get the yard to do it. I would > expect that they pay to make it ready but you pay to re-winterize. > > A good reason for a sea-trial is to run the engine. Running it on the hard > is difficult and WILL NOT reveal 100% of the potential problems. You need > full throttle runs. I even suggest full throttle while tied to the dock. > During this test watch the shaft seal. Watch for black smoke. Listen for > vibration. Check for proper alternator current. If the prop is set > correctly you probably won't get full RPM (3200-3600), there is just too > much load. Once that is complete, motor out and get to full throttle. Now > you should be able to get to full rated RPM. Find out what the hull speed > is prior to the sea trial. Compare how close you are able to get. A > properly adjusted prop will get you to hull speed at about full RPM. > Remember all the drive train together could cost more than $10k. Think you > don't need an engine? Think again. I was forced to deliver mine 350 miles > without one. I needed it! > > The sea trial also gives a better idea of the sail condition. You can't > tell if a sail is "blown out" until you sail it. You may not find problems > with the running rigging or the furler until they are put to use. > Electronics might reveal problems too. Depth sounder, auto helm, GPS, > radar, speed log. If it has any of these devices, there value is a big fat > zero if there is ANY hiccup. > > Josh Muckley > > -- > Want to email me privately? Check out: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard > Then get my public key at: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit > On Feb 26, 2013 9:25 PM, "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You guys are fabulous and one of the reasons I am excited that the boat we >> are likely to end up with turns out to be another C&C. I really appreciate >> all the advice. One question from the responses- the sea trial. The boat >> is on the hard with rig up and engine winterized. It had not occurred to >> me that we would throw it in the water in February (March by the time this >> would happen) and go for a motor/sail- it is still pretty cold up here, but >> it makes sense. I can see the importance of this to run the engine and >> check the prop (Maxprop), and I like the idea of an engine survey, but what >> else? It will sail like a C&C, so what are the specific goals of the sea >> trial? I gather that it would then be hauled again and re-winterized? Who >> pays for the launching, prepping, hauling and re-winterizing? Thanks- Dave >> >> David Knecht >> 50 Farmstead Rd. >> Storrs, CT 06268 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/5e33507e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:41:28 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat buying tips > Message-ID: > <ca+zacrb9f8+9ir8-bdpfjg8ws5ba3sydn5dj-gdmgytj5b5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Agreed Joel, > > Over all I was disappointed with what a standard survey included. I had > two in less than a month on two different boats with different surveyors. > If not for needing it for the financing I would opt next time for an engine > and rigging survey alone. I can swing a moisture meter, and verify the > systems "work". There is probably an "inspection check" list for free on > the internet that would be as helpful as the surveyors were. > > Josh > > -- > Want to email me privately? Check out: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard > Then get my public key at: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit > On Feb 26, 2013 10:32 PM, "Joel Aronson" <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You might also want to consider a rigging survey. My surveyor could not >> see a broken tang. Luckily I had a furler installed, so my rigger saw it >> before I lost the rig. It was an expensive, unwelcome surprise. >> >> Joel >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The haul and launch are sold as a pair so the previous haul covers the >> launch. But if you don't buy then you are responsible for putting it back >> on the hard. Other than that all costs are yours. That's kinda why you >> want a contract...so that the money you are investing can't be sold out >> from under you. The owner would normally make the boat ready for sale and >> sail but in this case the brokerage will get the yard to do it. I would >> expect that they pay to make it ready but you pay to re-winterize. >> >> A good reason for a sea-trial is to run the engine. Running it on the >> hard is difficult and WILL NOT reveal 100% of the potential problems. You >> need full throttle runs. I even suggest full throttle while tied to the >> dock. During this test watch the shaft seal. Watch for black smoke. >> Listen for vibration. Check for proper alternator current. If the prop is >> set correctly you probably won't get full RPM (3200-3600), there is just >> too much load. Once that is complete, motor out and get to full throttle. >> Now you should be able to get to full rated RPM. Find out what the hull >> speed is prior to the sea trial. Compare how close you are able to get. A >> properly adjusted prop will get you to hull speed at about full RPM. >> Remember all the drive train together could cost more than $10k. Think you >> don't need an engine? Think again. I was forced to deliver mine 350 miles >> without one. I needed it! >> >> The sea trial also gives a better idea of the sail condition. You can't >> tell if a sail is "blown out" until you sail it. You may not find problems >> with the running rigging or the furler until they are put to use. >> Electronics might reveal problems too. Depth sounder, auto helm, GPS, >> radar, speed log. If it has any of these devices, there value is a big fat >> zero if there is ANY hiccup. >> >> Josh Muckley >> >> -- >> Want to email me privately? Check out: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard >> Then get my public key at: >> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit >> On Feb 26, 2013 9:25 PM, "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You guys are fabulous and one of the reasons I am excited that the boat >>> we are likely to end up with turns out to be another C&C. I really >>> appreciate all the advice. One question from the responses- the sea trial. >>> The boat is on the hard with rig up and engine winterized. It had not >>> occurred to me that we would throw it in the water in February (March by >>> the time this would happen) and go for a motor/sail- it is still pretty >>> cold up here, but it makes sense. I can see the importance of this to run >>> the engine and check the prop (Maxprop), and I like the idea of an engine >>> survey, but what else? It will sail like a C&C, so what are the specific >>> goals of the sea trial? I gather that it would then be hauled again and >>> re-winterized? Who pays for the launching, prepping, hauling and >>> re-winterizing? Thanks- Dave >>> >>> David Knecht >>> 50 Farmstead Rd. >>> Storrs, CT 06268 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/cc385af0/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:17:22 -0500 > From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat buying tips > Message-ID: <snt130-ds4ca86ba7c0b9804b31c6fce...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > All very good tips. > > I would add to look thoroughly for a good surveyor. I bet that this list can > help. Another source is the Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors > (www.marinesurvey.org). I would pick at least a couple and talk to them > (interview them). You want to make sure that they are working for you (not > the boat owner, not the broker, not the bank). Be prepared that a good > survey will cost you (min $500), but this might be one of the better > investments in your future boat. > > I walked away from one boat after the surveyor told me to "run as quickly as > you can" (after he stopped counting blisters at around 150 mark). > > Theoretically, there is nothing you could not repair in the boat, but the > sea trial should show any leaks, how the boat handles, how the sails work, > how the motor works. If you look at the price list that was included here > before, you would be gambling several $k without one. > > One extra price item - transporting boat (if you decide to pick another one) > is not cheap, either ($1k-5k and more). > > Good luck. > > Marek > In Ottawa > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/adf98501/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:31:21 -0800 > From: Paul Baker <pauljba...@shaw.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Message-ID: <512d9a29.6080...@shaw.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > *sigh*, no 24 half-hulls, the little-un of the family forgotten as usual ;-) > > Seriously though, the models look great, nice job Andy. > > > On 13-02-26 01:18 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: >> Thanks, David. >> >> I didn't want to abuse the hospitality here by getting all commercial. >> So here's the deal: For my fellow listers who want a half hull I'll >> offer a 25% discount on the prices on my web site: tridentstudio.com >> <http://tridentstudio.com>. Just mention the list when you place your >> order. >> >> Cheers >> Andy >> C&C 40 >> Peregrine >> >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com >> <mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>> wrote: >> >> After much activity about the half-hull topic, it became apparent >> that there is a pent up demand out there. And, in a rather >> round-about way I found out that our fellow-lister, Andrew Burton, >> is the half-model maker I/we have been speaking of. >> >> It seems Andrew was laying low to avoid taking advantage of the >> list in a commercial fashion. But he is also of the mindset >> thanking fellow listers for their advice by offering a >> substantial discount on their half-hulls. I offered to >> communicate his dilemma to the group. >> >> What say you? I am all for letting Andrew help others. He is, if >> you remember, also donating the 35-III half hull to Rob Ball. >> >> David F. Risch >> 1981 40-2 >> (401) 419-4650 <tel:%28401%29%20419-4650> (cell) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130226/aedab02d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:02:06 -0500 > From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Message-ID: <648b580c-7131-446c-a91b-665c5cf58...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I make a 24 model. It's just not on the list, yet. > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > > On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Paul Baker <pauljba...@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> *sigh*, no 24 half-hulls, the little-un of the family forgotten as usual ;-) >> >> Seriously though, the models look great, nice job Andy. >> >> >> On 13-02-26 01:18 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: >>> Thanks, David. >>> >>> I didn't want to abuse the hospitality here by getting all commercial. So >>> here's the deal: For my fellow listers who want a half hull I'll offer a >>> 25% discount on the prices on my web site: tridentstudio.com. Just mention >>> the list when you place your order. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Andy >>> C&C 40 >>> Peregrine >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: >>>> After much activity about the half-hull topic, it became apparent that >>>> there is a pent up demand out there. And, in a rather round-about way I >>>> found out that our fellow-lister, Andrew Burton, is the half-model maker >>>> I/we have been speaking of. >>>> >>>> It seems Andrew was laying low to avoid taking advantage of the list in a >>>> commercial fashion. But he is also of the mindset thanking fellow >>>> listers for their advice by offering a substantial discount on their >>>> half-hulls. I offered to communicate his dilemma to the group. >>>> >>>> What say you? I am all for letting Andrew help others. He is, if you >>>> remember, also donating the 35-III half hull to Rob Ball. >>>> >>>> David F. Risch >>>> 1981 40-2 >>>> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Burton >>> 61 W Narragansett Ave >>> Newport, RI >>> USA 02840 >>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >>> phone +401 965 5260 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130227/782420d8/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:18:48 GMT > From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Message-ID: <20130227.081848.2926...@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > OH wow!!! you actually have a Viking 33 model!! I won't be able to grab it > this year...too much other stuff to buy for the boat... DannyLolita1973 > Viking 33Westport Point, MA > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Paul Baker <pauljba...@shaw.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:31:21 -0800 > > > *sigh*, no 24 half-hulls, the little-un of the family forgotten as usual ;-) > > Seriously though, the models look great, nice job Andy. > > > On 13-02-26 01:18 PM, Andrew Burton wrote:Thanks, David. > > I didn't want to abuse the hospitality here by getting all commercial. So > here's the deal: For my fellow listers who want a half hull I'll offer a 25% > discount on the prices on my web site: tridentstudio.com. Just mention the > list when you place your order. > > Cheers > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > After much activity about the half-hull topic, it became apparent that there > is a pent up demand out there. And, in a rather round-about way I found out > that our fellow-lister, Andrew Burton, is the half-model maker I/we have been > speaking of. > > It seems Andrew was laying low to avoid taking advantage of the list in a > commercial fashion. But he is also of the mindset thanking fellow listers > for their advice by offering a substantial discount on their half-hulls. I > offered to communicate his dilemma to the group. > > What say you? I am all for letting Andrew help others. He is, if you > remember, also donating the 35-III half hull to Rob Ball. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > _______________________________________________This List is provided by the > C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130227/0112b4d0/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:42:38 -0500 > From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Message-ID: <22febfbd-d1a0-4800-a411-e45fb0b70...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The Viking 33 was one of the first models I added when I bought the company > in 99. I used to race on and La Brisa in the Northwest. I love that boat! > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > > On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: > >> OH wow!!! you actually have a Viking 33 model!! >> >> I won't be able to grab it this year...too much other stuff to buy for the >> boat... >> >> Danny >> Lolita >> 1973 Viking 33 >> Westport Point, MA >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Paul Baker <pauljba...@shaw.ca> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates >> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:31:21 -0800 >> >> *sigh*, no 24 half-hulls, the little-un of the family forgotten as usual ;-) >> >> Seriously though, the models look great, nice job Andy. >> >> >> On 13-02-26 01:18 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: >> Thanks, David. >> >> I didn't want to abuse the hospitality here by getting all commercial. So >> here's the deal: For my fellow listers who want a half hull I'll offer a 25% >> discount on the prices on my web site: tridentstudio.com. Just mention the >> list when you place your order. >> >> Cheers >> Andy >> C&C 40 >> Peregrine >> >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: >>> After much activity about the half-hull topic, it became apparent that >>> there is a pent up demand out there. And, in a rather round-about way I >>> found out that our fellow-lister, Andrew Burton, is the half-model maker >>> I/we have been speaking of. >>> >>> It seems Andrew was laying low to avoid taking advantage of the list in a >>> commercial fashion. But he is also of the mindset thanking fellow >>> listers for their advice by offering a substantial discount on their >>> half-hulls. I offered to communicate his dilemma to the group. >>> >>> What say you? I am all for letting Andrew help others. He is, if you >>> remember, also donating the 35-III half hull to Rob Ball. >>> >>> David F. Risch >>> 1981 40-2 >>> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130227/f630a8fd/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:52:07 GMT > From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Message-ID: <20130227.085207.2926...@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Well Andy, You're pretty close by and you're welcome aboard Lolita anytime!! > Hell, you could probably teach me a thing or two about her! I've only had > her out sailing about 5-6 times... DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:42:38 -0500 > > > The Viking 33 was one of the first models I added when I bought the company > in 99. I used to race on and La Brisa in the Northwest. I love that > boat!AndyC&C 40Peregrine > > Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260 > On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: > > OH wow!!! you actually have a Viking 33 model!! I won't be able to grab it > this year...too much other stuff to buy for the boat... DannyLolita1973 > Viking 33Westport Point, MA > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Paul Baker <pauljba...@shaw.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List More Half-Hull Model Updates > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:31:21 -0800 > > > *sigh*, no 24 half-hulls, the little-un of the family forgotten as usual ;-) > > Seriously though, the models look great, nice job Andy. > > > On 13-02-26 01:18 PM, Andrew Burton wrote:Thanks, David. > > I didn't want to abuse the hospitality here by getting all commercial. So > here's the deal: For my fellow listers who want a half hull I'll offer a 25% > discount on the prices on my web site: tridentstudio.com. Just mention the > list when you place your order. > > Cheers > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > After much activity about the half-hull topic, it became apparent that there > is a pent up demand out there. And, in a rather round-about way I found out > that our fellow-lister, Andrew Burton, is the half-model maker I/we have been > speaking of. > > It seems Andrew was laying low to avoid taking advantage of the list in a > commercial fashion. But he is also of the mindset thanking fellow listers > for their advice by offering a substantial discount on their half-hulls. I > offered to communicate his dilemma to the group. > > What say you? I am all for letting Andrew help others. He is, if you > remember, also donating the 35-III half hull to Rob Ball. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > _______________________________________________This List is provided by the > C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130227/a5a0a15f/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 85, Issue 111 > ***************************************** > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
