I would start out by offering the broker 40% of the current asking  price, 
subject to your surveyor's survey & sea trail. Watch the  broker's reaction 
and you should be able to clearly see just how far they  are willing to go 
to sell you the boat without wasting a of of your time.. Also,  ask for the 
name & phone number of the previous owner and give him/her  a call.  
 
Most important of all is to keep in mind that it is a buyer's market out  
there, just ask the members of this list.
 
Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39 TM
HONEY
US12788
 
 
In a message dated 2/26/2013 6:22:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
a.burton.sai...@gmail.com writes:

David,  pretty much everything's negotiable. But the order to do is: 
negotiate before  the survey, then make an offer "subject to survey." Don't use 
the broker's  surveyor. Ask here for a recommendation. 
A broker should have a list of  what other boats like yours have sold for, 
but I doubt the selling broker is  the right one to ask.
I would expect to pay less for a boat without  instruments and include the 
fact that you'll have to install them in the  price. Maybe make the price 
you pay subject to the dealer getting you a good  price on the gear you want.
As for the bottom, you can include a line in  the deal that they prepare 
the bottom for the coming season, but be specific:  ask that sand and spray 
the bottom with seven coats of fuschia Exoti-Coat then  wet sand and burnish 
to 7 million grit, or you'll just get a coat of bucket  ends rolled on an 
hour before launch. Like anything on a boat, it'll just cost  more.
negotiate hard. There are lots of boats on the market at the  
moment...though I understand that may change once people in NJ start getting  
insurance 
checks.
Cheers
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM, David Knecht <_davidaknecht@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com) > wrote:

I am hoping to return to the C&C  family this season.  I have a 1990 34+ in 
my sights that I will soon  have surveyed etc.  Does one negotiate the 
price and then survey or the  other way around?  I am relatively inexperienced 
with the buying  process, so looking for tips/suggestions on how to proceed.  
Does one  negotiate the price and then survey or the other way around?  Can 
one  find out what similar boats have sold for over the past few years?  
The  boat is owned by the brokerage as it was taken in trade on a new boat and 
I  have the impression I can negotiate hard on the price as they want to 
move  it.   Are there any specific issues to look out for with the 34+?  Are 
there things I can ask them to do as part of the purchase?  For instance, the 
boat has GPS, but lacks wind/speed instruments.  Can installing that be 
part of the negotiation or does one just figure  that kind of thing into the 
ownership cost?  They are not a boat yard,  but are associated with one 
nearby.  Also, whose responsibility should  it be to get the bottom ready for 
the 
new season?  Any suggestions  welcome.  Thanks- Dave  


David Knecht
50 Farmstead Rd.
Storrs, CT 06268








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