On a different note, I have several SSHDs (Seagate 1 TB with 8 GB of MLC).
Basically these just show up as a single drive and you generally do not
get to separate them out. The ones that I have perform like midrange SSDs
until you exhaust the large cache, then performance drops to what you would
expect from a 5400 RPM laptop drive. I like the latest generation more
than I expected to.
It is possible that you have an SSD that is separate from the hard drive
and is using the Intel driver to stitch together a sort of logical hybrid.
There should be some BIOS/UEFI settings that relate to this.
Hth,
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Gustin Johnson <gus...@meganerd.ca> wrote:
> On my Lenovo I was able to disable the secure boot in the UEFI and then
> install Ubuntu as I normally would. I did a clean install of Windows 8 on
> it's own SSD. GRUB has no problems with either OS.
>
> I also stand by my criticism of the Ultrabook branding. Just for some
> background, my direct PC hardware experience dates back to the 8086 and
> 286. I/we had computers before those (the Apple IIc was the most often
> used). I am very much aware of Netbooks (which generally also used PC
> parts btw), and I see the Ultrabook category as an iteration of that
> concept. Better yes. Good not by any stretch of the imagination
> especially when you compare them with. I have also owned several Netbooks
> and an Ultrabook.
>
> Glossy 1280x768 screens are a decade old at this point, and 4 GiB of RAM
> is basically a single browser session. Most have pretty nasty keyboards
> (though to be fair, so do most laptops).
>
> The latest release from Intel ("Haswell") might be able to change my
> opinion, but I will need to get my hands on one from someone other than
> Apple.
>
> Basically, I don't see the point. If you want something small and
> portable for light computing duties, get an iPad or a Nexus 10, you are
> going to get a vastly better screen.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Hendrik Schaink <hscha...@infovisi.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Here is a link to a side-by-side install of Win8 and Ubuntu 12.xx with
>> consideration for both uefi and secure boot:
>> http://askubuntu.com/**questions/221835/installing-**
>> ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-**windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-**supported<http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported>
>>
>> Also, have a look at a Google search with the search terms:
>> https://www.google.ca/webhp#**bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=**
>> 614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%**2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%**2B12.04<https://www.google.ca/webhp#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%2B12.04>
>>
>> There's a lot of trial-and-error going on when installing linux (ubuntu)
>> on the same hdd as Win8. Because you actually can lock yourself out of the
>> Win8 computer, make sure to read up on everything until you grasp the
>> "pitfall opportunities" _and_ the work-arounds.
>>
>> Disclaimer: While I studied this kind of install, I have _NOT_ actually
>> put it into place myself, so the the above are just my suggestions. Be sure
>> to know what you are doing, in all reality I cannot assist you any further.
>>
>> IMHO, don't waste any breath asking MS. Acer does have _some_ linux OS
>> expertise as demo'd by the release of a linux-based tablet/netbook. I
>> recommend you head straight for the Ubuntu forums to get hold of real-world
>> answers.
>>
>> Wishing you a successful install, take care,
>>
>> Hendrik
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-08-08 08:22 PM, Richard Carter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hendrick,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply. I was hoping you would tell me how to do it!
>>>
>>> My first step is to contact Microsoft tech support to ask them how to do
>>> it. I doubt they will tell me anything useful but at least it may annoy
>>> them! Then I'll contact Acer tech support to ask them how to do it.
>>> Once again I doubt I'll get much useful info but it will show them that
>>> people want to run linux on their laptop. Finally, I'll contact ubuntu
>>> forum to get info on partitioning and installing on a hybrid drive.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Hendrik Schaink <hscha...@infovisi.com
>>> <mailto:hscha...@infovisi.com>**> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking forward to reading about your efforts in getting around the
>>> locked-in boot partition of any Win8 machine!
>>>
>>> Hendrik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-08-05 03:37 PM, Richard Carter wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments gents. I had a rush of blood to the
>>> brain and
>>> splashed out for the acer v7 before I had a chance to read the
>>> comment
>>> from Gustin and Andrew: it has lots of RAM, a "hybrid" drive (a
>>> 24gb ssd
>>> portion and a 500gb hdd portion) and wasn't too expensive. My
>>> plan is
>>> to replace windows8 with either ubuntu or debian. I hope I can
>>> arrange
>>> to have home on the 500gb hdd and the os on the 24gb sdd. Will
>>> the
>>> installers do that or will it require some clever partitioning
>>> of the
>>> "hybrid" drive? I would be grateful for comments.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Robinson
>>> <and...@boohahaonline.com
>>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com<and...@boohahaonline.com>
>>> >
>>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline._**_com
>>>
>>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com <and...@boohahaonline.com>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not to sound condescending, but I have been selling computer
>>> hardware since before the turn of the century, both
>>> corporate and
>>> retail, and I believe that you are confusing a netbook with
>>> an
>>> ultra-book. An ultra-book is built like most other
>>> laptops, the
>>> only difference being that an ultra-book is thinner than a
>>> typical
>>> laptop. In regards to solder on ram any brand of laptop,
>>> be it a
>>> netbook, an ultra- book, or a regular laptop any of these
>>> can have
>>> ram solder on to the motherboard. In terms of the screens
>>> available
>>> on ultra-books and regular laptops are essentially the
>>> same, be it
>>> touch screen, high resolution, ips, or other feature.
>>> Hardware wise
>>> both styles have very similar hardware, in terms of
>>> processor
>>> options, ram speeds, hard drive options, and integrated
>>> features.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> *From:*clug-talk
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>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:53 AM
>>> *To:* CLUG General
>>> *Subject:* Re: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> Do not think of "Ultra-books" as computers. They are
>>> appliances
>>> that you will likely not be able to service or upgrade.
>>> Generally
>>> the RAM is soldered on and the batteries are not usually
>>> replaceable
>>> either.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> I get that the really thin profile is cool looking, but the
>>> crappy
>>> hardware and screens that they stuff into these things is
>>> really not
>>> worth it in the long run, at least in my opinion.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a reason that I bought a Lenovo T430 instead of an
>>> "Ultra-book". It had a standard mSATA, a slim (7mm) SATA
>>> 2.5", and
>>> a replacable optical drive (I have a 2.5" drive caddy in
>>> place of
>>> the optical drive. RAM was also user serviceable with
>>> detachable
>>> batteries. The clincher was the matte IPS panel.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> High quality laptops seem to be a dying breed. I used to
>>> flip
>>> between several brands (the Dell Latitude line used to be a
>>> favourite of mine) as they had pretty comparable value.
>>> Currently
>>> only Lenovo seems to make anything half decent from the top
>>> tier
>>> vendors.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> There are some smaller OEMs (like Sager, I buy Power and
>>> Rosewill)
>>> where you can get decent components, YMMV with them.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Robinson
>>> <and...@boohahaonline.com <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**
>>> com <and...@boohahaonline.com>>
>>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline._**_com
>>>
>>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com <and...@boohahaonline.com>>>>
>>> wrote:____
>>>
>>>
>>> The 24gb ssd is typically going to be a cache drive. It may
>>> not be
>>> possible to install anything on it, this will be a bios
>>> limitation.
>>> In terms of replacing the drive in some cases the caching
>>> ssd drives
>>> have different mounting holes than standard msata drives.
>>> That is
>>> the issue I've got with me Asus laptop.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown
>>> (www.nitrodesk.com <http://www.nitrodesk.com>
>>> <http://www.nitrodesk.com>)___**___
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* Richard Carter [carter.r....@gmail.com
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>>> *Received:* Saturday, 03 Aug 2013, 9:49
>>> *To:* CLUG General [clug-talk@clug.ca
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>>> <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca>>]
>>> *Subject:* [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm considering buying an Acer V7-581-6489 laptop which has
>>> 2
>>> drives; a 500GB HDD and a 24GB SSD. I want to get rid of
>>> Windows 8
>>> and install Debian and/or Ubunu. Has anyone had any
>>> experience
>>> doing an install on a computer of this kind? ____
>>>
>>>
>>> What I would really like to do is replace the 24GB SSD
>>> with a 128GB
>>> SSD. Is this feasible? ____
>>>
>>> I would be grateful for advice.____
>>>
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