Not to sound condescending, but I have been selling computer hardware since 
before the turn of the century, both corporate and retail, and I believe that 
you are confusing a netbook with an ultra-book. An ultra-book is built like 
most other laptops, the only difference being that an ultra-book is thinner 
than a typical laptop. In regards to solder on ram any brand of laptop, be it a 
netbook, an ultra- book, or a regular laptop any of these can have ram solder 
on to the motherboard. In terms of the screens available on ultra-books and 
regular laptops are essentially the same, be it touch screen, high resolution, 
ips, or other feature. Hardware wise both styles have very similar hardware, in 
terms of processor options, ram speeds, hard drive options, and integrated 
features.

 
From: clug-talk [mailto:clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca] On Behalf Of Gustin Johnson
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:53 AM
To: CLUG General
Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7

 
Do not think of "Ultra-books" as computers.  They are appliances that you will 
likely not be able to service or upgrade.  Generally the RAM is soldered on and 
the batteries are not usually replaceable either.

 
I get that the really thin profile is cool looking, but the crappy hardware and 
screens that they stuff into these things is really not worth it in the long 
run, at least in my opinion.

 
There is a reason that I bought a Lenovo T430 instead of an "Ultra-book".  It 
had a standard mSATA, a slim (7mm) SATA 2.5", and a replacable optical drive (I 
have a 2.5" drive caddy in  place of the optical drive.  RAM was also user 
serviceable with detachable batteries.  The clincher was the matte IPS panel.

 
High quality laptops seem to be a dying breed.  I used to flip between several 
brands (the Dell Latitude line used to be a favourite of mine) as they had 
pretty comparable value.  Currently only Lenovo seems to make anything half 
decent from the top tier vendors.

 
There are some smaller OEMs (like Sager, I buy Power and Rosewill) where you 
can get decent components, YMMV with them.

 
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Robinson <and...@boohahaonline.com 
<mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com> > wrote:

The 24gb ssd is typically going to be a cache drive. It may not be possible to 
install anything on it, this will be a bios limitation. In terms of replacing 
the drive in some cases the caching ssd drives have different mounting holes 
than standard msata drives. That is the issue I've got with me Asus laptop.

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Carter [carter.r....@gmail.com <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com> ]
Received: Saturday, 03 Aug 2013, 9:49
To: CLUG General [clug-talk@clug.ca <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca> ]
Subject: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7

 
I'm considering buying an Acer V7-581-6489 laptop which has 2 drives; a 500GB 
HDD and a 24GB SSD.  I want to get rid of Windows 8 and install Debian and/or 
Ubunu.  Has anyone had any experience doing an install on a computer of this 
kind?  

What I would really like to do is replace the 24GB SSD  with a 128GB SSD.  Is 
this feasible?  

I would be grateful for advice.

Robin


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