Looking forward to reading about your efforts in getting around the locked-in boot partition of any Win8 machine!

Hendrik


On 13-08-05 03:37 PM, Richard Carter wrote:
Thanks for your comments gents.  I had a rush of blood to the brain and
splashed out for the acer v7 before I had a chance to read the comment
from Gustin and Andrew: it has lots of RAM, a "hybrid" drive (a 24gb ssd
portion and a 500gb hdd portion) and wasn't too expensive.  My plan is
to replace windows8 with either ubuntu or debian.  I hope I can arrange
to have home on the 500gb hdd and the os on the 24gb sdd.   Will the
installers do that or  will it require some clever partitioning of the
"hybrid" drive?  I would be grateful for comments.

Robin


On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Robinson
<and...@boohahaonline.com <mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com>> wrote:

    Not to sound condescending, but I have been selling computer
    hardware since before the turn of the century, both corporate and
    retail, and I believe that you are confusing a netbook with an
    ultra-book.  An ultra-book is built like most other laptops, the
    only difference being that an ultra-book is thinner than a typical
    laptop.  In regards to solder on ram any brand of laptop, be it a
    netbook, an ultra- book, or a regular laptop any of these can have
    ram solder on to the motherboard.  In terms of the screens available
    on ultra-books and regular laptops are essentially the same, be it
    touch screen, high resolution, ips, or other feature.  Hardware wise
    both styles have very similar hardware, in terms of processor
    options, ram speeds, hard drive options, and integrated features.____

    __ __

    *From:*clug-talk [mailto:clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca
    <mailto:clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca>] *On Behalf Of *Gustin Johnson
    *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:53 AM
    *To:* CLUG General
    *Subject:* Re: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____

    __ __

    Do not think of "Ultra-books" as computers.  They are appliances
    that you will likely not be able to service or upgrade.  Generally
    the RAM is soldered on and the batteries are not usually replaceable
    either.____

    __ __

    I get that the really thin profile is cool looking, but the crappy
    hardware and screens that they stuff into these things is really not
    worth it in the long run, at least in my opinion.____

    __ __

    There is a reason that I bought a Lenovo T430 instead of an
    "Ultra-book".  It had a standard mSATA, a slim (7mm) SATA 2.5", and
    a replacable optical drive (I have a 2.5" drive caddy in  place of
    the optical drive.  RAM was also user serviceable with detachable
    batteries.  The clincher was the matte IPS panel.____

    __ __

    High quality laptops seem to be a dying breed.  I used to flip
    between several brands (the Dell Latitude line used to be a
    favourite of mine) as they had pretty comparable value.  Currently
    only Lenovo seems to make anything half decent from the top tier
    vendors.____

    __ __

    There are some smaller OEMs (like Sager, I buy Power and Rosewill)
    where you can get decent components, YMMV with them.____

    __ __

    On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Robinson
    <and...@boohahaonline.com <mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com>> wrote:____

    The 24gb ssd is typically going to be a cache drive. It may not be
    possible to install anything on it, this will be a bios limitation.
    In terms of replacing the drive in some cases the caching ssd drives
    have different mounting holes than standard msata drives. That is
    the issue I've got with me Asus laptop.

    Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com
    <http://www.nitrodesk.com>)____



    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* Richard Carter [carter.r....@gmail.com
    <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com>]
    *Received:* Saturday, 03 Aug 2013, 9:49
    *To:* CLUG General [clug-talk@clug.ca <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca>]
    *Subject:* [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____

    __ __

    I'm considering buying an Acer V7-581-6489 laptop which has 2
    drives; a 500GB HDD and a 24GB SSD.  I want to get rid of Windows 8
    and install Debian and/or Ubunu.  Has anyone had any experience
    doing an install on a computer of this kind? ____

    What I would really like to do is replace the 24GB SSD  with a 128GB
    SSD.  Is this feasible? ____

    I would be grateful for advice.____

    Robin____

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