Hi Richard,

Here is a link to a side-by-side install of Win8 and Ubuntu 12.xx with consideration for both uefi and secure boot:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported

Also, have a look at a Google search with the search terms:
https://www.google.ca/webhp#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%2B12.04

There's a lot of trial-and-error going on when installing linux (ubuntu) on the same hdd as Win8. Because you actually can lock yourself out of the Win8 computer, make sure to read up on everything until you grasp the "pitfall opportunities" _and_ the work-arounds.

Disclaimer: While I studied this kind of install, I have _NOT_ actually put it into place myself, so the the above are just my suggestions. Be sure to know what you are doing, in all reality I cannot assist you any further.

IMHO, don't waste any breath asking MS. Acer does have _some_ linux OS expertise as demo'd by the release of a linux-based tablet/netbook. I recommend you head straight for the Ubuntu forums to get hold of real-world answers.

Wishing you a successful install, take care,

Hendrik


On 13-08-08 08:22 PM, Richard Carter wrote:
Hi Hendrick,

Thanks for your reply.  I was hoping you would  tell me how to do it!

My first step is to contact Microsoft tech support to ask them how to do
it.  I doubt they will tell me anything useful but at least it may annoy
them!  Then I'll contact Acer tech support to ask them how to do it.
Once again I doubt I'll get much useful info but it will show them that
people want to run linux on their laptop.   Finally, I'll contact ubuntu
forum to get info on partitioning and installing on a hybrid drive.

Robin


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Hendrik Schaink <hscha...@infovisi.com
<mailto:hscha...@infovisi.com>> wrote:

    Looking forward to reading about your efforts in getting around the
    locked-in boot partition of any Win8 machine!

    Hendrik



    On 13-08-05 03:37 PM, Richard Carter wrote:

        Thanks for your comments gents.  I had a rush of blood to the
        brain and
        splashed out for the acer v7 before I had a chance to read the
        comment
        from Gustin and Andrew: it has lots of RAM, a "hybrid" drive (a
        24gb ssd
        portion and a 500gb hdd portion) and wasn't too expensive.  My
        plan is
        to replace windows8 with either ubuntu or debian.  I hope I can
        arrange
        to have home on the 500gb hdd and the os on the 24gb sdd.   Will the
        installers do that or  will it require some clever partitioning
        of the
        "hybrid" drive?  I would be grateful for comments.

        Robin


        On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Robinson
        <and...@boohahaonline.com <mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com>
        <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.__com
        <mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com>>> wrote:

             Not to sound condescending, but I have been selling computer
             hardware since before the turn of the century, both
        corporate and
             retail, and I believe that you are confusing a netbook with an
             ultra-book.  An ultra-book is built like most other
        laptops, the
             only difference being that an ultra-book is thinner than a
        typical
             laptop.  In regards to solder on ram any brand of laptop,
        be it a
             netbook, an ultra- book, or a regular laptop any of these
        can have
             ram solder on to the motherboard.  In terms of the screens
        available
             on ultra-books and regular laptops are essentially the
        same, be it
             touch screen, high resolution, ips, or other feature.
          Hardware wise
             both styles have very similar hardware, in terms of processor
             options, ram speeds, hard drive options, and integrated
        features.____

             __ __

             *From:*clug-talk [mailto:clug-talk-bounces@__clug.ca
        <mailto:clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca>
             <mailto:clug-talk-bounces@__clug.ca
        <mailto:clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca>>] *On Behalf Of *Gustin Johnson
             *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:53 AM
             *To:* CLUG General
             *Subject:* Re: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____

             __ __


             Do not think of "Ultra-books" as computers.  They are
        appliances
             that you will likely not be able to service or upgrade.
          Generally
             the RAM is soldered on and the batteries are not usually
        replaceable
             either.____

             __ __


             I get that the really thin profile is cool looking, but the
        crappy
             hardware and screens that they stuff into these things is
        really not
             worth it in the long run, at least in my opinion.____

             __ __


             There is a reason that I bought a Lenovo T430 instead of an
             "Ultra-book".  It had a standard mSATA, a slim (7mm) SATA
        2.5", and
             a replacable optical drive (I have a 2.5" drive caddy in
          place of
             the optical drive.  RAM was also user serviceable with
        detachable
             batteries.  The clincher was the matte IPS panel.____

             __ __


             High quality laptops seem to be a dying breed.  I used to flip
             between several brands (the Dell Latitude line used to be a
             favourite of mine) as they had pretty comparable value.
          Currently
             only Lenovo seems to make anything half decent from the top
        tier
             vendors.____

             __ __


             There are some smaller OEMs (like Sager, I buy Power and
        Rosewill)
             where you can get decent components, YMMV with them.____

             __ __


             On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Robinson
             <and...@boohahaonline.com <mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com>
        <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.__com
        <mailto:and...@boohahaonline.com>>> wrote:____


             The 24gb ssd is typically going to be a cache drive. It may
        not be
             possible to install anything on it, this will be a bios
        limitation.
             In terms of replacing the drive in some cases the caching
        ssd drives
             have different mounting holes than standard msata drives.
        That is
             the issue I've got with me Asus laptop.

             Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown
        (www.nitrodesk.com <http://www.nitrodesk.com>
             <http://www.nitrodesk.com>)______



             -----Original Message-----
             *From:* Richard Carter [carter.r....@gmail.com
        <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com>
             <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com
        <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com>__>]
             *Received:* Saturday, 03 Aug 2013, 9:49
             *To:* CLUG General [clug-talk@clug.ca
        <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca> <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca
        <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca>>]
             *Subject:* [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____

             __ __


             I'm considering buying an Acer V7-581-6489 laptop which has 2
             drives; a 500GB HDD and a 24GB SSD.  I want to get rid of
        Windows 8
             and install Debian and/or Ubunu.  Has anyone had any experience
             doing an install on a computer of this kind? ____


             What I would really like to do is replace the 24GB SSD
          with a 128GB
             SSD.  Is this feasible? ____

             I would be grateful for advice.____

             Robin____

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