Hi Hendrik, Thanks for your generous and informative reply. I was actually joking when I wrote "I was hoping you would tell me how to do it!" But I'm grateful for your expert advice and I'll check the links you sent.
I plan to remove windows8 completely, replacing it with ubuntu (or debian) which may make things a bit easier. So I guess my first step will be to reformat and partition both the 24gb ssd and the 500gb hdd. I'll see what ubuntu forum has to say. Thanks again for your help Robin (aka Richard) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Hendrik Schaink <hscha...@infovisi.com>wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Here is a link to a side-by-side install of Win8 and Ubuntu 12.xx with > consideration for both uefi and secure boot: > http://askubuntu.com/**questions/221835/installing-** > ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-**windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-**supported<http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported> > > Also, have a look at a Google search with the search terms: > https://www.google.ca/webhp#**bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=** > 614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%**2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%**2B12.04<https://www.google.ca/webhp#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%2B12.04> > > There's a lot of trial-and-error going on when installing linux (ubuntu) > on the same hdd as Win8. Because you actually can lock yourself out of the > Win8 computer, make sure to read up on everything until you grasp the > "pitfall opportunities" _and_ the work-arounds. > > Disclaimer: While I studied this kind of install, I have _NOT_ actually > put it into place myself, so the the above are just my suggestions. Be sure > to know what you are doing, in all reality I cannot assist you any further. > > IMHO, don't waste any breath asking MS. Acer does have _some_ linux OS > expertise as demo'd by the release of a linux-based tablet/netbook. I > recommend you head straight for the Ubuntu forums to get hold of real-world > answers. > > Wishing you a successful install, take care, > > Hendrik > > > > On 13-08-08 08:22 PM, Richard Carter wrote: > >> Hi Hendrick, >> >> Thanks for your reply. I was hoping you would tell me how to do it! >> >> My first step is to contact Microsoft tech support to ask them how to do >> it. I doubt they will tell me anything useful but at least it may annoy >> them! Then I'll contact Acer tech support to ask them how to do it. >> Once again I doubt I'll get much useful info but it will show them that >> people want to run linux on their laptop. Finally, I'll contact ubuntu >> forum to get info on partitioning and installing on a hybrid drive. >> >> Robin >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Hendrik Schaink <hscha...@infovisi.com >> <mailto:hscha...@infovisi.com>**> wrote: >> >> Looking forward to reading about your efforts in getting around the >> locked-in boot partition of any Win8 machine! >> >> Hendrik >> >> >> >> On 13-08-05 03:37 PM, Richard Carter wrote: >> >> Thanks for your comments gents. I had a rush of blood to the >> brain and >> splashed out for the acer v7 before I had a chance to read the >> comment >> from Gustin and Andrew: it has lots of RAM, a "hybrid" drive (a >> 24gb ssd >> portion and a 500gb hdd portion) and wasn't too expensive. My >> plan is >> to replace windows8 with either ubuntu or debian. I hope I can >> arrange >> to have home on the 500gb hdd and the os on the 24gb sdd. Will >> the >> installers do that or will it require some clever partitioning >> of the >> "hybrid" drive? I would be grateful for comments. >> >> Robin >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Robinson >> <and...@boohahaonline.com >> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com<and...@boohahaonline.com> >> > >> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline._**_com >> >> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com <and...@boohahaonline.com>>>> >> wrote: >> >> Not to sound condescending, but I have been selling computer >> hardware since before the turn of the century, both >> corporate and >> retail, and I believe that you are confusing a netbook with >> an >> ultra-book. An ultra-book is built like most other >> laptops, the >> only difference being that an ultra-book is thinner than a >> typical >> laptop. In regards to solder on ram any brand of laptop, >> be it a >> netbook, an ultra- book, or a regular laptop any of these >> can have >> ram solder on to the motherboard. In terms of the screens >> available >> on ultra-books and regular laptops are essentially the >> same, be it >> touch screen, high resolution, ips, or other feature. >> Hardware wise >> both styles have very similar hardware, in terms of processor >> options, ram speeds, hard drive options, and integrated >> features.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> *From:*clug-talk >> [mailto:clug-talk-bounces@__cl**ug.ca<http://clug.ca> >> <mailto:clug-talk-bounces@**clug.ca <clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca>> >> <mailto:clug-talk-bounces@__cl**ug.ca <http://clug.ca> >> >> <mailto:clug-talk-bounces@**clug.ca <clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca>>>] >> *On Behalf Of *Gustin Johnson >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:53 AM >> *To:* CLUG General >> *Subject:* Re: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> Do not think of "Ultra-books" as computers. They are >> appliances >> that you will likely not be able to service or upgrade. >> Generally >> the RAM is soldered on and the batteries are not usually >> replaceable >> either.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> I get that the really thin profile is cool looking, but the >> crappy >> hardware and screens that they stuff into these things is >> really not >> worth it in the long run, at least in my opinion.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> There is a reason that I bought a Lenovo T430 instead of an >> "Ultra-book". It had a standard mSATA, a slim (7mm) SATA >> 2.5", and >> a replacable optical drive (I have a 2.5" drive caddy in >> place of >> the optical drive. RAM was also user serviceable with >> detachable >> batteries. The clincher was the matte IPS panel.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> High quality laptops seem to be a dying breed. I used to >> flip >> between several brands (the Dell Latitude line used to be a >> favourite of mine) as they had pretty comparable value. >> Currently >> only Lenovo seems to make anything half decent from the top >> tier >> vendors.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> There are some smaller OEMs (like Sager, I buy Power and >> Rosewill) >> where you can get decent components, YMMV with them.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Robinson >> <and...@boohahaonline.com >> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com<and...@boohahaonline.com> >> > >> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline._**_com >> >> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com <and...@boohahaonline.com>>>> >> wrote:____ >> >> >> The 24gb ssd is typically going to be a cache drive. It may >> not be >> possible to install anything on it, this will be a bios >> limitation. >> In terms of replacing the drive in some cases the caching >> ssd drives >> have different mounting holes than standard msata drives. >> That is >> the issue I've got with me Asus laptop. >> >> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown >> (www.nitrodesk.com <http://www.nitrodesk.com> >> <http://www.nitrodesk.com>)___**___ >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Richard Carter [carter.r....@gmail.com >> <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com**> >> <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com >> <mailto:carter.r....@gmail.com**>__>] >> >> *Received:* Saturday, 03 Aug 2013, 9:49 >> *To:* CLUG General [clug-talk@clug.ca >> <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca> <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca >> >> <mailto:clug-talk@clug.ca>>] >> *Subject:* [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> I'm considering buying an Acer V7-581-6489 laptop which has 2 >> drives; a 500GB HDD and a 24GB SSD. I want to get rid of >> Windows 8 >> and install Debian and/or Ubunu. Has anyone had any >> experience >> doing an install on a computer of this kind? ____ >> >> >> What I would really like to do is replace the 24GB SSD >> with a 128GB >> SSD. 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