But only if the solvent channels are small and you thus don’t need a penetrating cryoprotectant… Good luck! Elspeth ---------------------------------------------------- Elspeth F. Garman, Professor of Molecular Biophysics (Emerita), E-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.bioch.ox.ac.uk/garmangroup New undergraduate textbook out May 2025: MATHEMATICS FOR BIOSCIENCES: From Theory to Worked Examples and Applications Elspeth F Garman and Nicola Laurieri World Scientific Publishing Co.https://doi.org/10.1142/q0473
From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sarah Bowman Sent: 04 December 2025 18:13 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Skin around crystal Another advantage of microbatch-under-oil is that the oil *can* also serve as cryoprotectant if you are doing cryocrystallography… Sarah EJ Bowman PhD Associate Professor | Department of Biochemistry | Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences | University at Buffalo Director | National Crystallization Center | UB Hauptman Woodward Institute (www.getacrystal.org<http://www.getacrystal.org>) From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Patrick Shaw Stewart <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2025 at 3:01 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Skin around crystal You don't often get email from [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> Another approach is to use the microbatch-under-oil crystallization method - you very rarely get skins with that. Harvesting crystals from under oil is roughly as easy as from vapor diffusion drops. You have to make sure that the crystal fits the loop well, because it can be pulled off by the oil. On the other hand, you can take your time because you don't need to worry about evaporation, which makes it easier. On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 7:22 AM Cesar Luna-Chavez <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: BTW. How come nobody has asked about the crystallization conditions? I spent nearly four years nailing down the conditions to crystallize Fumarate Reductase from E coli. Certainly, I came across "skins" but managed to let the improvements lead me to a more conclusive protocol. 1) https://www.ucsf.edu/news/1999/06/97513/sfvamc-ucsf-scientists-solve-key-protein-structure 2) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1046592800912385 3) https://journals.iucr.org/paper?cy0109 Feel free to reach out to start optimizing YOUR conditions to avoid skins. On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 5:19 AM Nichols, Charlie <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, I have been offline for medical reasons for a few weeks… Trawling through my ~1000 emails and saw this thread… Have faced this problem many times, some crystals seem to like to grow from the interface of skin and solution phase and are therefore inherently adherent to the skin. Adding additives to stop skin formation changes the dynamics of vapour equilibration and may be removing the preferred nucleation surface, which can then reduce crystal quality rather than improving it e.g. either no crystals or a tendency to obtain showers of smaller crystals. You may be able to ameliorate this by using larger drops with lower surface area : volume ratio and serial dilution of seeds, you may then find conditions that give more good crystals not entrained with the skin. Re-solubilising the skin after crystal growth is however often the simplest approach. For this I can recommend testing the Cryosol screen from Molecular Dimensions, these multi-component organic solvent mixtures are both excellent for cryoprotection and also very good at resolubilising skin from PEG system crystallisations. https://moleculardimensions.com/en/category/cryoprotectant-screens Good luck, take care, Dr Charlie Nichols Charles River Laboratories From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of amit gaur Sent: 16 September 2025 21:58 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [ccp4bb] Skin around crystal WARNING: This message was sent by an external party. Report suspicious messages via the “Report Phishing” button in Outlook. Hi everyone, I am facing a problem during crystal freezing. My crystals are surrounded by skin and not separating from skin during crystal mounting. It seems that crystals are embedded in the skin. Has anyone experienced a similar situation and handled this situation? 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