BTW. How come nobody has asked about the crystallization conditions?
I spent nearly four years nailing down the conditions to crystallize
Fumarate Reductase from E coli.  Certainly, I came across "skins" but
managed to let the improvements lead me to a more conclusive protocol.

1)
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/1999/06/97513/sfvamc-ucsf-scientists-solve-key-protein-structure
2) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1046592800912385
3) https://journals.iucr.org/paper?cy0109

Feel free to reach out to start optimizing YOUR conditions to avoid skins.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 5:19 AM Nichols, Charlie <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, I have been offline for medical reasons for a few weeks…
>
>
>
> Trawling through my ~1000 emails and saw this thread…
>
>
>
> Have faced this problem many times, some crystals seem to like to grow
> from the interface of skin and solution phase and are therefore inherently
> adherent to the skin.
>
>
>
> Adding additives to stop skin formation changes the dynamics of vapour
> equilibration and may be removing the preferred nucleation surface, which
> can then reduce crystal quality rather than improving it e.g. either no
> crystals or a tendency to obtain showers of smaller crystals. You may be
> able to ameliorate this by using larger drops with lower surface area :
> volume ratio and serial dilution of seeds, you may then find conditions
> that give more good crystals not entrained with the skin.
>
>
>
> Re-solubilising the skin after crystal growth is however often the
> simplest approach. For this I can recommend testing the Cryosol screen from
> Molecular Dimensions, these multi-component organic solvent mixtures are
> both excellent for cryoprotection and also very good at resolubilising skin
> from PEG system crystallisations.
>
> https://moleculardimensions.com/en/category/cryoprotectant-screens
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>
>
> Good luck, take care,
>
> Dr Charlie Nichols
>
> Charles River Laboratories
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>
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> I am facing a problem during crystal freezing. My crystals are surrounded
> by skin and not separating from skin during crystal mounting. It seems that
> crystals are embedded in the skin. Has anyone experienced a similar
> situation and handled this situation?
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>
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> *Dr. Amit Gaur, *
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> *Department of Biomedical Science,*
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