ais523 wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 10:15 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> 2698: TRUE >> >> I accept the caller's arguments, but also c.'s gratuitous arguments; >> in particular, ais523's "I intend to amend via various objection-based >> methods" did not necessarily offer a reasonable opportunity to review >> the notice-based change that e actually had in mind. > > These arguments contradict judge c.'s arguments in CFJ 2697, where e > explicitly ruled that the amendment in question did give a reasonable > opportunity to review the amendment: > > c. wrote: >> Although there was a plethora of objections in this case, ais523 made >> it clear that e intended at least some of eir (identical) amendment >> attempts to go through despite them, and nobody could have reasonably >> discounted this as at least a possibility. In this case, therefore, >> every player who was a member of at least one public contract had the >> reasonable opportunity to review the amendment.
I believe that argument is only valid within a certain scope. In particular, consider it in conjunction with G.'s gratuitous arguments in the same case; there was certainly reasonable opportunity to review the possibility of a loophole in the various without-objection methods, but I don't think there was reasonable opportunity to review the possibility of declaring with-notice after the fact. Anyway, I think R1728(a) ("unambiguously and clearly specifying ... the method(s)"), plus the interpretation that "with ... notice" in a contract activates R1728(4), defeats the scam even without R101. > Is there a defined process for appealing arguments but not judgements? > To me, the combined judgements suggest that the mousetrap scam worked, > but the contradictory arguments make me hesitate to resolve the issue by > "using" the scam, in case one or other of the judgements is incorrect. You can appeal and request AFFIRM with a concurring opinion.