On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 13:37 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Alex Smith wrote: >>> What about a sort of proposal that can't be made democratic, but can't >>> do anything but award wins? That would let people mess around with all >>> the ordinary-proposal tricks without making things too hairy. >> >> All that would do is create a system by which a coalition of players and >> enough notes can grant themselves a boring victory. > > Veto? Filibuster? Messing with quorum by deliberate non-voting? Other > methods of manipulating vote power we think up in the future? > > The whole point of this would be to let people mess around with the > ordinary-voting rules. Caste's only a small part of that.
One problem with all that is ultimately you can only delay so much, and those veto/filibuster etc. can always be gotten around by submitting and re-submitting multiple proposals to do the same thing. So ultimately, it does just come down to the coalition if this is implemented naively. To make it procedural rather than voting-strength based, you need to say that a proposal submitted with certain text becomes a special class of proposal, that after one is created, no more of that class can be created for X time, and that the result offers something that isn't normal for proposals of that power; e.g. awarding caste or wins with a power lower than the normal secured level of such awards. -G.
