when the two primary methods of death removal are the mortician form and
self reporting its simple to cheat. no body in any freezer.
derp

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 6:17 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

> "Concealing a relatives death"  Exactly what I was saying...   nothing
> went to shit.   You were the one that named them Mike....
>
> thanks for the proof of MY point...  But keep drinking
>
> Mike the methhead is a woman, fyi https://oig.ssa.gov/neealing
> ws-releases/2023-01-25-caseyville-woman-admits-to-cashing-deceased-mother%E2%80%99s-social-security-checks/
> <https://oig.ssa.gov/news-releases/2023-01-25-caseyville-woman-admits-to-cashing-deceased-mother%E2%80%99s-social-security-checks/>
>
> but ssa oig is lying too? preemptively? do you see how many parts of your
> diatribe went to shit in one article.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 10:26 PM ch...@go-mtc.com <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
>
>> It's gonna be a fun show to watch.  I don't believe the sky is falling.
>> Liberal heads are exploding and that is amusing to me.  Trump has done some
>> puzzling things, but I hope there is a weird tactic of some sort behind
>> them and not just demented megalomaniac weirdness.    But hey, they got
>> more hostages released today and they found an entire bureaucracy in some
>> stone tunnel that process government retirement benefits by hand using
>> paper and manilla envelopes.  That alone is a big win in my book.  Can you
>> believe that...  I presume it is true.
>>
>> And I really loved the "throwing gold bars off the Titanic"
>> recording....  You just can't make some of this stuff up.
>>
>> Both Musk and Trump are way too quick to repeat dumb-ass things from
>> their unadvised advisors at times.  Remember the inject bleach press
>> conference...
>>
>> I am just having fun sitting back watching the big show.  It is all pro
>> wrestling to me.
>>
>> I am hoping that he will bend Zelinski's arm enough to give up enough
>> turf to get Putin to leave town.  That would be a win.  I am hoping Trump
>> convinces the NATO nations that he really might back out or stop paying.  I
>> think he has Europe's attention now that they cannot count on the USA.
>> That is not a bad thing.  Why should we borrow money to pay more for our
>> fair share?  In that theme why should we borrow money to buy condoms for
>> folks in Afghanistan or wherever.   We are not the nursing mother of the
>> planet.  Let's get homeless veterans a hotel room in Manhattan, not foreign
>> nationals that show up expecting a handout.  I had to drive clear out on
>> Long Island to find a room during a weather delay the last time I came
>> through JFK.  All the local hotels were full up with
>> migrants/immigrants/illegals/refuges/criminals whatever you choose to call
>> them.  But they had a nice warm cot and three hots a day in a 4 star
>> Manhattan hotel courtesy of our limitless visa card.
>>
>> No nukes launched yet so all is well!
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Robert <
>> i...@avantwireless.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:13 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>>
>> I had no idea that Steve has so much inside information that is so well
>> documented.  Because HE THINKS SOMETHING it MUST be true.
>>
>>
>> Steve you are the one drinking the kool-aide by the gallon.
>>
>> Yes it is complicated to put and pull money from dead peoples accounts.
>> My step daughters had to jump though mega hoops to get access to their
>> deceased fathers' accounts.
>>
>> Digital age does not mean trivial ways to get around bank account access
>> control.
>>
>>  Yes the SSA did spit out age reports.  Just because they knew not to
>> populate it with bad data doesn't mean it's not a valid report.
>>
>> Musk's team didn't know about Cobol data formats until someone shoved
>> under their noses.
>>
>> Mike the methhead didn't report gammy's death, that's how he kept cashing
>> the checks.  He put her in a freezer until social services showed up.   Oh
>> now there aren't those social services to find out grammy's dead, so the
>> now it's going to get worse not better.
>>
>> Hell the right will love it, they can now withhold SSI payments if you
>> don't go into the voting booth and vote in the King every 4 years.
>>
>> Give me a fucking break, EVERYTHING you protest on the left is now
>> happening for reals from the right with a congress that isn't doing their
>> principal job which is to act as a check on the other leg of government.
>> I do believe you really do want to live in a dictatorship.
>>
>> Just remember it's all good that other people are getting shafted right
>> up until you find out that you are one of the "Other People"
>> Enjoy your $13 dollar cartons of eggs and the 20% gas price increases SO
>> FAR...   All my 1% friends are loving the tax cuts coming.
>>
>> On 2/19/25 5:45 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> we operate in a digital age so its not complicated to pull money from
>> dead peoples accounts or to put it in. Neither of my parents have cashed a
>> social security check in a long time. I think a ton of its simple human
>> errors, not COBOL date limitations. Most of the SSNs probably
>> arent receiving a check, but its always been in the millions for fraud with
>> SSI but everybody says since its less than 1% its ok (hint, its not
>> probably less, and its absolutely not OK)
>> Up until a week ago, the SSA couldn't spit out an age report, but thats
>> just COBOL, right?
>>
>> I would like an accounting of the fraudulent payments that are made to
>> show commonality amongst institutions, Im guessing its more common amongst
>> certain banking groups than others. Like ive said, this is all about big
>> data, thats musk teams wheelhouse. Government has always had big data, they
>> just didnt have any way to manage it. So we are going from little to no
>> oversight or management to big data analytics at warp speed. Including
>> death notices to financial institutions. You never hear about Mike the
>> Methhead getting busted cashing dead grannies SSI checks 3 months after she
>> croaks, its usually years/decades before its caught
>>
>> With AI driven analytics pattern recognition, fraud detection rates will
>> go through the roof, once the data is migrated to systems capable. Imagine
>> once the federal systems can all talk to each other. Hell, the left will
>> love it, they will be able to withhold SSI payments if little johnny
>> crippleton isnt marked vaccinated on time.
>>
>>
>> I do, on the other hand also suspect we are going to see an increase in
>> terrorism. Some of those 200 year olds SSI checks may have been funding
>> stuff happenning in places that dont exist because the US doesnt do
>> "terrible things" like that. Most of those folks probably have names like
>> Clarence Ignatio Adams, Charlene Ida Appleton, or Carl Ike ANotthecia
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:12 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> What's your take on the claims of tens of millions of dead people getting
>> Social Security?
>>
>> My first thought was that it would require every bank in the country to
>> be collectively processing millions of checks every month made out to dead
>> people with none of them noticing, so surely nobody is going to believe
>> that.  I was disappointed to find out that a lot of people are dumb enough
>> to believe that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:31 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> doge.gov requires zero membership fee, spit out your koolaid
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 5:25 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>>
>> It being on X is not publicly available.  You have to be a member.  Are
>> you saying they take your private information and deduct member fees from
>> your social security check and make you a member against your will?
>> On 2/17/25 06:00, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> A better question is why do we have to take their word for it when it's
>> spent?
>> The good, final outcome of this is there is a framework in place now for
>> all future spending to be on public record in a clear and transparent
>> manner, publicly accessible, with the spend requests and links to the
>> outcome reports. That should t require foia
>>
>> My guess is half of what they claw back will ultimately be paid out when
>> it's explained and justified.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 7:23 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> An example I just saw on doge.gov was an $8mil USDA contract with a
>> screen shot of a record.  Nothing on the screen demonstrates how it was
>> waste, fraud, or abuse.  The title of the contract was some fluffy sounding
>> thing about environmental compliance, and as far as I can tell the title is
>> what we’re supposed to accept as evidence.  That was an example from the
>> day’s “batch” with no information provided about whatever else was canceled
>> that day.
>>
>> Maybe they’ll publish more details later for “maximal transparency”, but
>> right now we are forced to take their word for it.
>>
>> It’s fair to have a problem with unelected bureaucrats wielding most of
>> the power of the federal government, but the same should not become OK just
>> because the bureaucrat is an ideologically appropriate apparatchik.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:41:06 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>>
>> yeah, super scary. boogeyman level
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 6:17 PM Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> This seems about par for the course with these guys.  Scary stuff.
>>
>> I love how this administration uses the term "maximally transparent", or
>> some derivation thereof everywhere they can.  I guess if you say it enough,
>> it must be true, right?
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:59 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
>>
>>
>>
>> DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
>>
>> *The source code for the new Department of Government Efficiency’s
>> “official US government website” points to X as its primary source of
>> authority, while sharing links to the site sends users to x.com
>> <http://x.com>.*
>>
>>
>>
>> At a press conference in the Oval Office
>> <https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html> 
>> this
>> week, Elon Musk promised the actions of his so-called Department of
>> Government Efficiency (DOGE) <https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/> project
>> would be “maximally transparent,” thanks to information posted to its
>> website.
>>
>> At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty
>> <https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u>.
>> However, when the site finally came online Thursday morning, it turned out
>> to be little more than a glorified feed of posts from the official DOGE
>> account on Musk’s own X platform, raising new questions about Musk’s 
>> conflicts
>> of interest in running DOGE
>> <https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb>.
>>
>> DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United States
>> government,” but rather than giving detailed breakdowns of the cost savings
>> and efficiencies Musk claims his project is making, the homepage of the
>> site just replicated posts from the DOGE account on X.
>>
>> A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the promotion of
>> Musk’s own platform went deeper than replicating the posts on the homepage.
>> The source code shows that the site’s canonical tags
>> <https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization> direct search engines to
>> x.com rather than DOGE.gov.
>>
>> A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines what the
>> authoritative version of a website is. It is typically used by sites with
>> multiple pages as a search engine optimization tactic, to avoid their
>> search ranking being diluted.
>>
>> In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines that when
>> people search for content found on DOGE.gov, they should not show those
>> pages in search results, but should instead display the posts on X.
>>
>> “It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the website
>> secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web developer <https://vale.rocks/>, tells
>> WIRED. “This isn't usually how things are handled, and it indicates that
>> the X account is taking priority over the actual website itself.”
>>
>> Advertisement
>>
>> All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their own
>> homepage in their canonical tags, including the official White House
>> website. Additionally, when sharing the DOGE website on mobile devices, the
>> source code creates a link to the DOGE X account rather than the website
>> itself.
>>
>> “It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are prodding
>> people in the direction of the X account everywhere they can,” Chidlow adds.
>>
>> Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov labeled
>> “Savings” now appears. So far the page is empty except for a single line
>> that reads: “Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine's day,” followed
>> by a heart emoji
>> <https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/>.
>>
>> A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts showing how many
>> people work in each government agency, with the information coming from
>> data gathered by the Office of Personnel Management in March 2024.
>>
>> A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's effort to
>> create a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. This is an enormous
>> effort, and there are likely some errors or omissions. We will continue to
>> strive for maximum accuracy over time.”
>>
>> Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE calls the
>> “Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as “the number of agency
>> rules created by unelected bureaucrats for each law passed by Congress in
>> 2024.”
>>
>> The charts in this section are also based on data previously collected by
>> US government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a Forbes article from last
>> month that was written by Clyde Wayne Crews, a member of the Heartland
>> Institute, a conservative think tank that pushed climate change
>> disinformation
>> <https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
>>  and
>> questioned the links between tobacco and lung cancer
>> <https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/>. It is
>> also a major advocate for privatizing government departments
>> <https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>
>> .
>>
>> The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective DOGE
>> employees to apply for roles including “software engineers, InfoSec
>> engineers, and other technology professionals.” As well as requesting a
>> Github account and résumé, the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3 bullet
>> points showcasing exceptional ability.”
>>
>> The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web application
>> security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on X
>> <https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607> how he was able to
>> identify the developer of the site as DOGE employee Kyle Shutt.
>>
>> Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found in the
>> site’s source code to Shutt, who used the same account when developing Musk’s
>> America PAC
>> <https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
>>  website.
>>
>> On Thursday, Drop Site News
>> <https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
>>  reported,
>> citing sources within FEMA, that Shutt had gained access to the agency’s
>> proprietary software controlling payments. Earlier this week, Business
>> Insider reported
>> <https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2> that
>> Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software company, was
>> listed as one of 30 people working for DOGE.
>>
>> Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests for
>> comment.
>>
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