Mike the methhead is a woman, fyi
https://oig.ssa.gov/news-releases/2023-01-25-caseyville-woman-admits-to-cashing-deceased-mother%E2%80%99s-social-security-checks/

but ssa oig is lying too? preemptively? do you see how many parts of your
diatribe went to shit in one article.




On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 10:26 PM ch...@go-mtc.com <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> It's gonna be a fun show to watch.  I don't believe the sky is falling.
> Liberal heads are exploding and that is amusing to me.  Trump has done some
> puzzling things, but I hope there is a weird tactic of some sort behind
> them and not just demented megalomaniac weirdness.    But hey, they got
> more hostages released today and they found an entire bureaucracy in some
> stone tunnel that process government retirement benefits by hand using
> paper and manilla envelopes.  That alone is a big win in my book.  Can you
> believe that...  I presume it is true.
>
> And I really loved the "throwing gold bars off the Titanic" recording....
> You just can't make some of this stuff up.
>
> Both Musk and Trump are way too quick to repeat dumb-ass things from their
> unadvised advisors at times.  Remember the inject bleach press conference...
>
> I am just having fun sitting back watching the big show.  It is all pro
> wrestling to me.
>
> I am hoping that he will bend Zelinski's arm enough to give up enough turf
> to get Putin to leave town.  That would be a win.  I am hoping Trump
> convinces the NATO nations that he really might back out or stop paying.  I
> think he has Europe's attention now that they cannot count on the USA.
> That is not a bad thing.  Why should we borrow money to pay more for our
> fair share?  In that theme why should we borrow money to buy condoms for
> folks in Afghanistan or wherever.   We are not the nursing mother of the
> planet.  Let's get homeless veterans a hotel room in Manhattan, not foreign
> nationals that show up expecting a handout.  I had to drive clear out on
> Long Island to find a room during a weather delay the last time I came
> through JFK.  All the local hotels were full up with
> migrants/immigrants/illegals/refuges/criminals whatever you choose to call
> them.  But they had a nice warm cot and three hots a day in a 4 star
> Manhattan hotel courtesy of our limitless visa card.
>
> No nukes launched yet so all is well!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Robert <
> i...@avantwireless.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:13 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>
> I had no idea that Steve has so much inside information that is so well
> documented.  Because HE THINKS SOMETHING it MUST be true.
>
>
> Steve you are the one drinking the kool-aide by the gallon.
>
> Yes it is complicated to put and pull money from dead peoples accounts.
> My step daughters had to jump though mega hoops to get access to their
> deceased fathers' accounts.
>
> Digital age does not mean trivial ways to get around bank account access
> control.
>
>  Yes the SSA did spit out age reports.  Just because they knew not to
> populate it with bad data doesn't mean it's not a valid report.
>
> Musk's team didn't know about Cobol data formats until someone shoved
> under their noses.
>
> Mike the methhead didn't report gammy's death, that's how he kept cashing
> the checks.  He put her in a freezer until social services showed up.   Oh
> now there aren't those social services to find out grammy's dead, so the
> now it's going to get worse not better.
>
> Hell the right will love it, they can now withhold SSI payments if you
> don't go into the voting booth and vote in the King every 4 years.
>
> Give me a fucking break, EVERYTHING you protest on the left is now
> happening for reals from the right with a congress that isn't doing their
> principal job which is to act as a check on the other leg of government.
> I do believe you really do want to live in a dictatorship.
>
> Just remember it's all good that other people are getting shafted right up
> until you find out that you are one of the "Other People"
> Enjoy your $13 dollar cartons of eggs and the 20% gas price increases SO
> FAR...   All my 1% friends are loving the tax cuts coming.
>
> On 2/19/25 5:45 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> we operate in a digital age so its not complicated to pull money from dead
> peoples accounts or to put it in. Neither of my parents have cashed a
> social security check in a long time. I think a ton of its simple human
> errors, not COBOL date limitations. Most of the SSNs probably
> arent receiving a check, but its always been in the millions for fraud with
> SSI but everybody says since its less than 1% its ok (hint, its not
> probably less, and its absolutely not OK)
> Up until a week ago, the SSA couldn't spit out an age report, but thats
> just COBOL, right?
>
> I would like an accounting of the fraudulent payments that are made to
> show commonality amongst institutions, Im guessing its more common amongst
> certain banking groups than others. Like ive said, this is all about big
> data, thats musk teams wheelhouse. Government has always had big data, they
> just didnt have any way to manage it. So we are going from little to no
> oversight or management to big data analytics at warp speed. Including
> death notices to financial institutions. You never hear about Mike the
> Methhead getting busted cashing dead grannies SSI checks 3 months after she
> croaks, its usually years/decades before its caught
>
> With AI driven analytics pattern recognition, fraud detection rates will
> go through the roof, once the data is migrated to systems capable. Imagine
> once the federal systems can all talk to each other. Hell, the left will
> love it, they will be able to withhold SSI payments if little johnny
> crippleton isnt marked vaccinated on time.
>
>
> I do, on the other hand also suspect we are going to see an increase in
> terrorism. Some of those 200 year olds SSI checks may have been funding
> stuff happenning in places that dont exist because the US doesnt do
> "terrible things" like that. Most of those folks probably have names like
> Clarence Ignatio Adams, Charlene Ida Appleton, or Carl Ike ANotthecia
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:12 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> What's your take on the claims of tens of millions of dead people getting
> Social Security?
>
> My first thought was that it would require every bank in the country to be
> collectively processing millions of checks every month made out to dead
> people with none of them noticing, so surely nobody is going to believe
> that.  I was disappointed to find out that a lot of people are dumb enough
> to believe that.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:31 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> doge.gov requires zero membership fee, spit out your koolaid
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 5:25 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>
> It being on X is not publicly available.  You have to be a member.  Are
> you saying they take your private information and deduct member fees from
> your social security check and make you a member against your will?
> On 2/17/25 06:00, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> A better question is why do we have to take their word for it when it's
> spent?
> The good, final outcome of this is there is a framework in place now for
> all future spending to be on public record in a clear and transparent
> manner, publicly accessible, with the spend requests and links to the
> outcome reports. That should t require foia
>
> My guess is half of what they claw back will ultimately be paid out when
> it's explained and justified.
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 7:23 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> An example I just saw on doge.gov was an $8mil USDA contract with a
> screen shot of a record.  Nothing on the screen demonstrates how it was
> waste, fraud, or abuse.  The title of the contract was some fluffy sounding
> thing about environmental compliance, and as far as I can tell the title is
> what we’re supposed to accept as evidence.  That was an example from the
> day’s “batch” with no information provided about whatever else was canceled
> that day.
>
> Maybe they’ll publish more details later for “maximal transparency”, but
> right now we are forced to take their word for it.
>
> It’s fair to have a problem with unelected bureaucrats wielding most of
> the power of the federal government, but the same should not become OK just
> because the bureaucrat is an ideologically appropriate apparatchik.
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:41:06 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>
> yeah, super scary. boogeyman level
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 6:17 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> This seems about par for the course with these guys.  Scary stuff.
>
> I love how this administration uses the term "maximally transparent", or
> some derivation thereof everywhere they can.  I guess if you say it enough,
> it must be true, right?
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:59 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
>
>
>
> DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
>
> *The source code for the new Department of Government Efficiency’s
> “official US government website” points to X as its primary source of
> authority, while sharing links to the site sends users to x.com
> <http://x.com>.*
>
>
>
> At a press conference in the Oval Office
> <https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html> 
> this
> week, Elon Musk promised the actions of his so-called Department of
> Government Efficiency (DOGE) <https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/> project
> would be “maximally transparent,” thanks to information posted to its
> website.
>
> At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty
> <https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u>.
> However, when the site finally came online Thursday morning, it turned out
> to be little more than a glorified feed of posts from the official DOGE
> account on Musk’s own X platform, raising new questions about Musk’s conflicts
> of interest in running DOGE
> <https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb>.
>
> DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United States
> government,” but rather than giving detailed breakdowns of the cost savings
> and efficiencies Musk claims his project is making, the homepage of the
> site just replicated posts from the DOGE account on X.
>
> A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the promotion of
> Musk’s own platform went deeper than replicating the posts on the homepage.
> The source code shows that the site’s canonical tags
> <https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization> direct search engines to
> x.com rather than DOGE.gov.
>
> A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines what the
> authoritative version of a website is. It is typically used by sites with
> multiple pages as a search engine optimization tactic, to avoid their
> search ranking being diluted.
>
> In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines that when
> people search for content found on DOGE.gov, they should not show those
> pages in search results, but should instead display the posts on X.
>
> “It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the website
> secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web developer <https://vale.rocks/>, tells
> WIRED. “This isn't usually how things are handled, and it indicates that
> the X account is taking priority over the actual website itself.”
>
> Advertisement
>
> All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their own homepage
> in their canonical tags, including the official White House website.
> Additionally, when sharing the DOGE website on mobile devices, the source
> code creates a link to the DOGE X account rather than the website itself.
>
> “It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are prodding people
> in the direction of the X account everywhere they can,” Chidlow adds.
>
> Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov labeled
> “Savings” now appears. So far the page is empty except for a single line
> that reads: “Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine's day,” followed
> by a heart emoji
> <https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/>.
>
> A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts showing how many
> people work in each government agency, with the information coming from
> data gathered by the Office of Personnel Management in March 2024.
>
> A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's effort to
> create a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. This is an enormous
> effort, and there are likely some errors or omissions. We will continue to
> strive for maximum accuracy over time.”
>
> Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE calls the
> “Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as “the number of agency
> rules created by unelected bureaucrats for each law passed by Congress in
> 2024.”
>
> The charts in this section are also based on data previously collected by
> US government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a Forbes article from last
> month that was written by Clyde Wayne Crews, a member of the Heartland
> Institute, a conservative think tank that pushed climate change
> disinformation
> <https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
>  and
> questioned the links between tobacco and lung cancer
> <https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/>. It is also
> a major advocate for privatizing government departments
> <https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>
> .
>
> The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective DOGE
> employees to apply for roles including “software engineers, InfoSec
> engineers, and other technology professionals.” As well as requesting a
> Github account and résumé, the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3 bullet
> points showcasing exceptional ability.”
>
> The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web application
> security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on X
> <https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607> how he was able to
> identify the developer of the site as DOGE employee Kyle Shutt.
>
> Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found in the
> site’s source code to Shutt, who used the same account when developing Musk’s
> America PAC
> <https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
>  website.
>
> On Thursday, Drop Site News
> <https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
>  reported,
> citing sources within FEMA, that Shutt had gained access to the agency’s
> proprietary software controlling payments. Earlier this week, Business
> Insider reported
> <https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2> that
> Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software company, was
> listed as one of 30 people working for DOGE.
>
> Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests for comment.
>
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