OK, maybe you’re right.
Hard to tell where his head’s at. What he did at X/Twitter seemed
more like running it into the ground out of spite than trying to
make money. And he’s trying to say Tesla is an AI company not a
car company.
His net worth is cited as around $400 billion, but that’s stock
valuation, right? Not liquid. Not like Scrooge McDuck swimming in
gold coins. I seem to remember he had to borrow money to buy Twitter.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/how-will-elon-musk-pay-twitter-2022-10-07/
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:29 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
Think he doesn't care? Right now Tesla annual revenue is $97
billion/year, of which about $17 billion of that is considered
profit. SpaceX might be doing great, but Tesla dwarfs SpaceX by
almost an order of magnitude.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/16/2025 1:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Not sure he cares. Besides, SpaceX is supposedly his big
moneymaker, and its #1 customer thinks quite highly of him.
I’ve also read that Starlink has started to be a cash cow.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/starlink-profit-growing-rapidly-as-it-faces-a-moment-of-promise-and-peril/
Other Musk companies like Boring Company and Neuralink don’t
seem like genius business ideas. But something has to finance
his missions to Mars.
https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-once-said-mars-needs-people-after-mark-cuban-asked-how-many-kids-he-wants/
It is being claimed he is up to 13 kids now, that would put him
ahead of Nick Cannon.
https://people.com/parents/all-about-nick-cannon-kids/
But I don’t think Elon is the white Nick Cannon, more like the
white Kanye West?
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 2:08 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov
<http://www.doge.gov>)
Seems Elon may be backing himself into a hole. People who have
been the biggest buyers of Tesla vehicles are now being
repulsed by his antics. People who have not, and probably will
not buy electric vehicles aren't going to start buying them
because, well, they're electric.
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/02/15/tesla-troubles-mount-as-musk-goes-full-rogue/
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/15/2025 3:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
*The source code for the new Department of Government
Efficiency’s “official US government website” points to X
as its primary source of authority, while sharing links to
the site sends users to x.com.*
At a press conference in the Oval Office
<https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html>
this
week, Elon Musk promised the actions of his so-called
Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)
<https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/> project would be
“maximally transparent,” thanks to information posted to
its website.
At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty
<https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u>.
However, when the site finally came online Thursday
morning, it turned out to be little more than a glorified
feed of posts from the official DOGE account on Musk’s own
X platform, raising new questions about Musk’s conflicts of
interest in running DOGE
<https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb>.
DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United
States government,” but rather than giving detailed
breakdowns of the cost savings and efficiencies Musk claims
his project is making, the homepage of the site just
replicated posts from the DOGE account on X.
A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the
promotion of Musk’s own platform went deeper than
replicating the posts on the homepage. The source code
shows that the site’s canonical tags
<https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization> direct search
engines to x.com rather than DOGE.gov.
A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search
engines what the authoritative version of a website is. It
is typically used by sites with multiple pages as a search
engine optimization tactic, to avoid their search ranking
being diluted.
In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search
engines that when people search for content found on
DOGE.gov, they should not show those pages in search
results, but should instead display the posts on X.
“It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the
website secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web developer
<https://vale.rocks/>, tells WIRED. “This isn't usually how
things are handled, and it indicates that the X account is
taking priority over the actual website itself.”
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All the other US government websites WIRED checked used
their own homepage in their canonical tags, including the
official White House website. Additionally, when sharing
the DOGE website on mobile devices, the source code creates
a link to the DOGE X account rather than the website itself.
“It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are
prodding people in the direction of the X account
everywhere they can,” Chidlow adds.
Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of
Doge.gov labeled “Savings” now appears. So far the page is
empty except for a single line that reads: “Receipts coming
soon, no later than Valentine's day,” followed by a heart
emoji
<https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/>.
A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts
showing how many people work in each government agency,
with the information coming from data gathered by the
Office of Personnel Management in March 2024.
A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is
DOGE's effort to create a comprehensive, government-wide
org chart. This is an enormous effort, and there are likely
some errors or omissions. We will continue to strive for
maximum accuracy over time.”
Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE
calls the “Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes
as “the number of agency rules created by unelected
bureaucrats for each law passed by Congress in 2024.”
The charts in this section are also based on data
previously collected by US government agencies. Doge.gov
also links to a Forbes article from last month that was
written by Clyde Wayne Crews, a member of the Heartland
Institute, a conservative think tank that pushed climate
change disinformation
<https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
and
questioned the links between tobacco and lung cancer
<https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/>.
It is also a major advocate for privatizing government
departments
<https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>.
The site also features a “Join” page which allows
prospective DOGE employees to apply for roles including
“software engineers, InfoSec engineers, and other
technology professionals.” As well as requesting a Github
account and résumé, the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3
bullet points showcasing exceptional ability.”
The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday,
web application security expert Sam Curry outlined in a
thread on X
<https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607> how he
was able to identify the developer of the site as DOGE
employee Kyle Shutt.
Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID
found in the site’s source code to Shutt, who used the same
account when developing Musk’s America PAC
<https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
website.
On Thursday, Drop Site News
<https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
reported,
citing sources within FEMA, that Shutt had gained access to
the agency’s proprietary software controlling payments.
Earlier this week, Business Insider reported
<https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2>
that
Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software
company, was listed as one of 30 people working for DOGE.
Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to
requests for comment.
