Mike the methhead is a woman, fyi https://oig.ssa.gov/neealing
ws-releases/2023-01-25-caseyville-woman-admits-to-cashing-deceased-mother%E2%80%99s-social-security-checks/
<https://oig.ssa.gov/news-releases/2023-01-25-caseyville-woman-admits-to-cashing-deceased-mother%E2%80%99s-social-security-checks/>
but ssa oig is lying too? preemptively? do you see how many parts of
your diatribe went to shit in one article.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 10:26 PM ch...@go-mtc.com <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
It's gonna be a fun show to watch. I don't believe the sky is
falling. Liberal heads are exploding and that is amusing to me.
Trump has done some puzzling things, but I hope there is a weird
tactic of some sort behind them and not just demented megalomaniac
weirdness. But hey, they got more hostages released today and
they found an entire bureaucracy in some stone tunnel that process
government retirement benefits by hand using paper and manilla
envelopes. That alone is a big win in my book. Can you believe
that... I presume it is true.
And I really loved the "throwing gold bars off the Titanic"
recording.... You just can't make some of this stuff up.
Both Musk and Trump are way too quick to repeat dumb-ass things
from their unadvised advisors at times. Remember the inject
bleach press conference...
I am just having fun sitting back watching the big show. It is all
pro wrestling to me.
I am hoping that he will bend Zelinski's arm enough to give up
enough turf to get Putin to leave town. That would be a win. I
am hoping Trump convinces the NATO nations that he really might
back out or stop paying. I think he has Europe's attention now
that they cannot count on the USA. That is not a bad thing. Why
should we borrow money to pay more for our fair share? In that
theme why should we borrow money to buy condoms for folks in
Afghanistan or wherever. We are not the nursing mother of the
planet. Let's get homeless veterans a hotel room in Manhattan,
not foreign nationals that show up expecting a handout. I had to
drive clear out on Long Island to find a room during a weather
delay the last time I came through JFK. All the local hotels were
full up with migrants/immigrants/illegals/refuges/criminals
whatever you choose to call them. But they had a nice warm cot
and three hots a day in a 4 star Manhattan hotel courtesy of our
limitless visa card.
No nukes launched yet so all is well!
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<i...@avantwireless.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:13 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov
<http://www.doge.gov>)
I had no idea that Steve has so much inside information that is so
well documented. Because HE THINKS SOMETHING it MUST be true.
Steve you are the one drinking the kool-aide by the gallon.
Yes it is complicated to put and pull money from dead peoples
accounts. My step daughters had to jump though mega hoops to get
access to their deceased fathers' accounts.
Digital age does not mean trivial ways to get around bank account
access control.
Yes the SSA did spit out age reports. Just because they knew not
to populate it with bad data doesn't mean it's not a valid report.
Musk's team didn't know about Cobol data formats until someone
shoved under their noses.
Mike the methhead didn't report gammy's death, that's how he kept
cashing the checks. He put her in a freezer until social services
showed up. Oh now there aren't those social services to find out
grammy's dead, so the now it's going to get worse not better.
Hell the right will love it, they can now withhold SSI payments if
you don't go into the voting booth and vote in the King every 4 years.
Give me a fucking break, EVERYTHING you protest on the left is now
happening for reals from the right with a congress that isn't
doing their principal job which is to act as a check on the other
leg of government. I do believe you really do want to live in a
dictatorship.
Just remember it's all good that other people are getting shafted
right up until you find out that you are one of the "Other People"
Enjoy your $13 dollar cartons of eggs and the 20% gas price
increases SO FAR... All my 1% friends are loving the tax cuts
coming.
On 2/19/25 5:45 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
we operate in a digital age so its not complicated to pull
money from dead peoples accounts or to put it in. Neither of
my parents have cashed a social security check in a long time.
I think a ton of its simple human errors, not COBOL date
limitations. Most of the SSNs probably arent receiving a
check, but its always been in the millions for fraud with SSI
but everybody says since its less than 1% its ok (hint, its
not probably less, and its absolutely not OK)
Up until a week ago, the SSA couldn't spit out an age report,
but thats just COBOL, right?
I would like an accounting of the fraudulent payments that are
made to show commonality amongst institutions, Im guessing its
more common amongst certain banking groups than others. Like
ive said, this is all about big data, thats musk teams
wheelhouse. Government has always had big data, they just
didnt have any way to manage it. So we are going from little
to no oversight or management to big data analytics at warp
speed. Including death notices to financial institutions. You
never hear about Mike the Methhead getting busted cashing dead
grannies SSI checks 3 months after she croaks, its usually
years/decades before its caught
With AI driven analytics pattern recognition, fraud detection
rates will go through the roof, once the data is migrated to
systems capable. Imagine once the federal systems can all talk
to each other. Hell, the left will love it, they will be able
to withhold SSI payments if little johnny crippleton
isnt marked vaccinated on time.
I do, on the other hand also suspect we are going to see an
increase in terrorism. Some of those 200 year olds SSI checks
may have been funding stuff happenning in places that dont
exist because the US doesnt do "terrible things" like that.
Most of those folks probably have names like Clarence Ignatio
Adams, Charlene Ida Appleton, or Carl Ike ANotthecia
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:12 PM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve,
What's your take on the claims of tens of millions of dead
people getting Social Security?
My first thought was that it would require every bank in
the country to be collectively processing millions of
checks every month made out to dead people with none of
them noticing, so surely nobody is going to believe that.
I was disappointed to find out that a lot of people are
dumb enough to believe that.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:31 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
doge.gov <http://doge.gov> requires zero membership
fee, spit out your koolaid
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 5:25 PM Jan-GAMs
<j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
It being on X is not publicly available. You have
to be a member. Are you saying they take your
private information and deduct member fees from
your social security check and make you a member
against your will?
On 2/17/25 06:00, Steve Jones wrote:
A better question is why do we have to take
their word for it when it's spent?
The good, final outcome of this is there is a
framework in place now for all future spending
to be on public record in a clear and
transparent manner, publicly accessible, with
the spend requests and links to the outcome
reports. That should t require foia
My guess is half of what they claw back will
ultimately be paid out when it's explained and
justified.
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 7:23 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve,
An example I just saw on doge.gov
<http://doge.gov> was an $8mil USDA
contract with a screen shot of a record.
Nothing on the screen demonstrates how it
was waste, fraud, or abuse. The title of
the contract was some fluffy sounding
thing about environmental compliance, and
as far as I can tell the title is what
we’re supposed to accept as evidence. That
was an example from the day’s “batch” with
no information provided about whatever
else was canceled that day.
Maybe they’ll publish more details later
for “maximal transparency”, but right now
we are forced to take their word for it.
It’s fair to have a problem with unelected
bureaucrats wielding most of the power of
the federal government, but the same
should not become OK just because the
bureaucrat is an ideologically appropriate
apparatchik.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:41:06 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website
(www.doge.gov <http://www.doge.gov>)
yeah, super scary. boogeyman level
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 6:17 PM Jason
McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
wrote:
This seems about par for the course
with these guys. Scary stuff.
I love how this administration uses
the term "maximally transparent", or
some derivation thereof everywhere
they can. I guess if you say it
enough, it must be true, right?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:59 PM Ken
Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
*The source code for the new
Department of Government
Efficiency’s “official US
government website” points to X as
its primary source of authority,
while sharing links to the site
sends users to x.com <http://x.com>.*
At a press conference in the Oval
Office
<https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html>
this
week, Elon Musk promised the
actions of his so-called
Department of Government
Efficiency (DOGE)
<https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/> project
would be “maximally transparent,”
thanks to information posted to
its website.
At the time of his comment, the
DOGE website was empty
<https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u>.
However, when the site finally
came online Thursday morning, it
turned out to be little more than
a glorified feed of posts from the
official DOGE account on Musk’s
own X platform, raising new
questions about Musk’s conflicts
of interest in running DOGE
<https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb>.
DOGE.gov claims to be an “official
website of the United States
government,” but rather than
giving detailed breakdowns of the
cost savings and efficiencies Musk
claims his project is making, the
homepage of the site just
replicated posts from the DOGE
account on X.
A WIRED review of the page’s
source code shows that the
promotion of Musk’s own platform
went deeper than replicating the
posts on the homepage. The source
code shows that the site’s
canonical tags
<https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization> direct
search engines to x.com
<http://x.com> rather than DOGE.gov.
A canonical tag is a snippet of
code that tells search engines
what the authoritative version of
a website is. It is typically used
by sites with multiple pages as a
search engine optimization tactic,
to avoid their search ranking
being diluted.
In DOGE’s case, however, the code
is informing search engines that
when people search for content
found on DOGE.gov, they should not
show those pages in search
results, but should instead
display the posts on X.
“It is promoting the X account as
the main source, with the website
secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web
developer <https://vale.rocks/>,
tells WIRED. “This isn't usually
how things are handled, and it
indicates that the X account is
taking priority over the actual
website itself.”
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All the other US government
websites WIRED checked used their
own homepage in their canonical
tags, including the official White
House website. Additionally, when
sharing the DOGE website on mobile
devices, the source code creates a
link to the DOGE X account rather
than the website itself.
“It seems that the DOGE website is
secondary, and they are prodding
people in the direction of the X
account everywhere they can,”
Chidlow adds.
Alongside the homepage feed of X
posts, a section of Doge.gov
labeled “Savings” now appears. So
far the page is empty except for a
single line that reads: “Receipts
coming soon, no later than
Valentine's day,” followed by a
heart emoji
<https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/>.
A section entitled “Workforce”
features some bar charts showing
how many people work in each
government agency, with the
information coming from data
gathered by the Office of
Personnel Management in March 2024.
A disclaimer at the bottom of the
page reads: “This is DOGE's effort
to create a comprehensive,
government-wide org chart. This is
an enormous effort, and there are
likely some errors or omissions.
We will continue to strive for
maximum accuracy over time.”
Another section, entitled
“Regulations,” features what DOGE
calls the “Unconstitutionality
Index,” which it describes as “the
number of agency rules created by
unelected bureaucrats for each law
passed by Congress in 2024.”
The charts in this section are
also based on data previously
collected by US government
agencies. Doge.gov also links to a
Forbes article from last month
that was written by Clyde Wayne
Crews, a member of the Heartland
Institute, a conservative think
tank that pushed climate change
disinformation
<https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
and
questioned the links between
tobacco and lung cancer
<https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/>.
It is also a major advocate for
privatizing government departments
<https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>.
The site also features a “Join”
page which allows prospective DOGE
employees to apply for roles
including “software engineers,
InfoSec engineers, and other
technology professionals.” As well
as requesting a Github account and
résumé, the form asks visitors to
“provide 2-3 bullet points
showcasing exceptional ability.”
The website does not list a
developer, but on Wednesday, web
application security expert Sam
Curry outlined in a thread on X
<https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607> how
he was able to identify the
developer of the site as DOGE
employee Kyle Shutt.
Curry claims he was able to link a
Cloudflare account ID found in the
site’s source code to Shutt, who
used the same account when
developing Musk’s America PAC
<https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
website.
On Thursday, Drop Site News
<https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
reported,
citing sources within FEMA, that
Shutt had gained access to the
agency’s proprietary software
controlling payments. Earlier this
week, Business Insider reported
<https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2> that
Shutt, who recently worked at an
AI interviewing software company,
was listed as one of 30 people
working for DOGE.
Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White
House responded to requests for
comment.
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