Boring Company says they have a MOU for a 17 km tunnel in Dubai.

https://www.boringcompany.com/dubai

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 7:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)

 

I should reply with a picture of Lucy with the football and Charlie Brown...

On 2/16/25 3:26 PM, Chuck wrote:

Read an article today about him admitting AD has been a failure but vowing to 
get it right on the next iteration.

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On Feb 16, 2025, at 4:57 PM, Robert  <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> 
<i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

 I think at this point, Tesla is a few brain cells for him.  He'll show up for 
publicity or to smother revolt, but it's on autopilot otherwise for him.   He 
rips off any talent that shows up, the only way he delivers self drive is 
through removing regulation, and legal responsibility.   We had a cybertruck go 
into a power pole with no real cause, as far as the driver could tell.  The 
driver took responsibility for not watching over the truck but that's not 
really AD.  That bar has moved as much as the stock price.

On 2/16/25 2:29 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

and if Tesla was selling as many cars as BYD is right now, the Tesla numbers 
would double. BYD is running circles around Tesla right now, and is killing 
pretty much every other car maker on the planet. 

If he put as much energy into making Tesla as he did in tearing down all those 
whining lefties, Tesla would be a barn burner.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/16/2025 1:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

OK, maybe you’re right.

 

Hard to tell where his head’s at.  What he did at X/Twitter seemed more like 
running it into the ground out of spite than trying to make money.  And he’s 
trying to say Tesla is an AI company not a car company.

 

His net worth is cited as around $400 billion, but that’s stock valuation, 
right?  Not liquid.  Not like Scrooge McDuck swimming in gold coins.  I seem to 
remember he had to borrow money to buy Twitter.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/how-will-elon-musk-pay-twitter-2022-10-07/

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov <http://www.doge.gov> )

 

Think he doesn't care? Right now Tesla annual revenue is $97 billion/year, of 
which about $17 billion of that is considered profit. SpaceX might be doing 
great, but Tesla dwarfs SpaceX by almost an order of magnitude.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/16/2025 1:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Not sure he cares.  Besides, SpaceX is supposedly his big moneymaker, and its 
#1 customer thinks quite highly of him.

 

I’ve also read that Starlink has started to be a cash cow.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/starlink-profit-growing-rapidly-as-it-faces-a-moment-of-promise-and-peril/

 

Other Musk companies like Boring Company and Neuralink don’t seem like genius 
business ideas.  But something has to finance his missions to Mars.

https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-once-said-mars-needs-people-after-mark-cuban-asked-how-many-kids-he-wants/

It is being claimed he is up to 13 kids now, that would put him ahead of Nick 
Cannon.

https://people.com/parents/all-about-nick-cannon-kids/

But I don’t think Elon is the white Nick Cannon, more like the white Kanye West?

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 2:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov <http://www.doge.gov> )

 

Seems Elon may be backing himself into a hole. People who have been the biggest 
buyers of Tesla vehicles are now being repulsed by his antics. People who have 
not, and probably will not buy electric vehicles aren't going to start buying 
them because, well, they're electric.

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/02/15/tesla-troubles-mount-as-musk-goes-full-rogue/

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/15/2025 3:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/

 

DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad

The source code for the new Department of Government Efficiency’s “official US 
government website” points to X as its primary source of authority, while 
sharing links to the site sends users to x.com.

 

At a press conference in the Oval Office 
<https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html>  
this week, Elon Musk promised the actions of his so-called Department of 
Government Efficiency (DOGE) <https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/>  project would 
be “maximally transparent,” thanks to information posted to its website.

At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty 
<https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u> . 
However, when the site finally came online Thursday morning, it turned out to 
be little more than a glorified feed of posts from the official DOGE account on 
Musk’s own X platform, raising new questions about Musk’s conflicts of interest 
in running DOGE 
<https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb> .

DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United States government,” 
but rather than giving detailed breakdowns of the cost savings and efficiencies 
Musk claims his project is making, the homepage of the site just replicated 
posts from the DOGE account on X.

A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the promotion of Musk’s own 
platform went deeper than replicating the posts on the homepage. The source 
code shows that the site’s canonical tags 
<https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization>  direct search engines to x.com 
rather than DOGE.gov.

A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines what the 
authoritative version of a website is. It is typically used by sites with 
multiple pages as a search engine optimization tactic, to avoid their search 
ranking being diluted.

In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines that when people 
search for content found on DOGE.gov, they should not show those pages in 
search results, but should instead display the posts on X.

“It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the website secondary,” 
Declan Chidlow, a web developer <https://vale.rocks/> , tells WIRED. “This 
isn't usually how things are handled, and it indicates that the X account is 
taking priority over the actual website itself.”

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All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their own homepage in 
their canonical tags, including the official White House website. Additionally, 
when sharing the DOGE website on mobile devices, the source code creates a link 
to the DOGE X account rather than the website itself.

“It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are prodding people in 
the direction of the X account everywhere they can,” Chidlow adds.

Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov labeled “Savings” 
now appears. So far the page is empty except for a single line that reads: 
“Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine's day,” followed by a heart 
emoji <https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/> .

A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts showing how many people 
work in each government agency, with the information coming from data gathered 
by the Office of Personnel Management in March 2024.

A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's effort to create 
a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. This is an enormous effort, and 
there are likely some errors or omissions. We will continue to strive for 
maximum accuracy over time.”

Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE calls the 
“Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as “the number of agency rules 
created by unelected bureaucrats for each law passed by Congress in 2024.”

The charts in this section are also based on data previously collected by US 
government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a Forbes article from last month 
that was written by Clyde Wayne Crews, a member of the Heartland Institute, a 
conservative think tank that pushed climate change disinformation 
<https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
  and questioned the links between tobacco and lung cancer 
<https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/> . It is also a 
major advocate for privatizing government departments 
<https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>
 .

The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective DOGE employees to 
apply for roles including “software engineers, InfoSec engineers, and other 
technology professionals.” As well as requesting a Github account and résumé, 
the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3 bullet points showcasing exceptional 
ability.”

The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web application 
security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on X 
<https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607>  how he was able to identify 
the developer of the site as DOGE employee Kyle Shutt.

Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found in the site’s 
source code to Shutt, who used the same account when developing Musk’s America 
PAC 
<https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
  website.

On Thursday, Drop Site News 
<https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
  reported, citing sources within FEMA, that Shutt had gained access to the 
agency’s proprietary software controlling payments. Earlier this week, Business 
Insider reported 
<https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2>  that 
Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software company, was listed 
as one of 30 people working for DOGE.

Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests for comment.

 





















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