You can choose not to buy a home there though.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

Nothing voluntary about HOAs.  If you buy a home in an HOA area, you are 
subject to their tax and there is nothing you can do about it.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

is that a real conspiracy?

My wife had a friend over the other day, first time I ever met a real Q 
believer. weird shit. is Q not the same as Qanon? cause Qanon I always thought 
was just some guy that posted vague stuff and was supposedly in the 
administration. Q people think the rich eat babies and some lady who just had a 
miscarriage, cristy tegan or something, uses the code pizza, for little girls 
and always instagrams about pizza. weird shit

I think HOAs operate on different rules, since its a "voluntary" entry into 
them. Ive never looked too deep into it cause id never be in one, id put an air 
hose up my back first. but the contracts must give up a great deal of private 
property rights including waiving otard stuff

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:23 AM Robert 
<i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
Google uses low frequency brain stimulation..  Whenever you use their browser 
and the volume isn't turned off.
On 10/6/20 7:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Messaging is king of all I suppose.

If you were Google, people would believe that you magically give it away for 
free.  Since you're not Google they'll assume some kind of robbery or graft.  I 
don't know how Google pulls off that kind of public relations coup.


On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
But it is free!  Comes with HOA dues.  Such a deal.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 6, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


If I was in charge of laws, they wouldn't be so legalistic.

You don't have exclusivity per se, but in de facto nobody will buy anything 
else when they're already forced to pay you whether they like it or not.  
They'd have to actively hate you before they'll even consider something else.  
You'd have to steal their birthdays before they consider another option, and 
you'd have to violate their daughters before they're willing to pay what the 
installation of the other option will actually cost.

.....that doesn't make it a bad deal for you, of course.  Competitors will cry 
foul because you can make money and they can't, but that doesn't mean they 
wouldn't do the same thing if they could.


On 10/5/2020 8:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

We don’t have exclusivity, we just have a service included in HOA fees.  They 
can have any service provider they want.
But the service provider will have to do an overbuild into a saturated area.  I 
would bet they will not do it.

From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 5:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

https://www.keglerbrown.com/publications/mdus-vs-the-fcc-exclusivity-service-agreements-with-cable-and-internet-providers/
https://www.nexttv.com/news/fcc-bans-exclusive-mdu-deals-296566
FCC Bans Exclusivity Contracts — HOA Law Blog — February ...www.hoalawblog.com 
› 
fcc_bans_exclusivity_contracts<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjak-670p7sAhUVHM0KHcR5D74QFjACegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoalawblog.com%2Ffcc_bans_exclusivity_contracts%2F&usg=AOvVaw1IWC6vbyFt33Un5wLgPWSa>

Pay your money and take your chances

Mark


On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Lots of companies doing these deals.  MDU, subdivisions.  What would be illegal 
about it?  The homeowners are free to go after any service they want, but they 
are locked into my service.  This has been litigated at the CATV level years 
ago and was found legal.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:28 PM Mark Radabaugh 
<m...@amplex.net<mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
I think you are going to find that arrangement is highly illegal from an FCC 
standpoint.   When the deal gets blown out by the next company that sues you 
and the HOA over it, is it going to be worth your time and investment?

Mark


On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I am getting some traction with developers for my fiber.  They want me to come 
in, they will put the subscription to my service as part of the HOA fees.  They 
will not let others in the ditch.  All for 10% of the gross.  So I get 100% 
take rate.  I am not unhappy with the deal.  But I am wondering about agreeing 
to a perpetual royalty.  Anyone else done one of these deals?
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