Nothing voluntary about HOAs.  If you buy a home in an HOA area, you are 
subject to their tax and there is nothing you can do about it.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

is that a real conspiracy? 

My wife had a friend over the other day, first time I ever met a real Q 
believer. weird shit. is Q not the same as Qanon? cause Qanon I always thought 
was just some guy that posted vague stuff and was supposedly in the 
administration. Q people think the rich eat babies and some lady who just had a 
miscarriage, cristy tegan or something, uses the code pizza, for little girls 
and always instagrams about pizza. weird shit

I think HOAs operate on different rules, since its a "voluntary" entry into 
them. Ive never looked too deep into it cause id never be in one, id put an air 
hose up my back first. but the contracts must give up a great deal of private 
property rights including waiving otard stuff

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:23 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

  Google uses low frequency brain stimulation..  Whenever you use their browser 
and the volume isn't turned off.


  On 10/6/20 7:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

    Messaging is king of all I suppose.


    If you were Google, people would believe that you magically give it away 
for free.  Since you're not Google they'll assume some kind of robbery or 
graft.  I don't know how Google pulls off that kind of public relations coup.



    On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

      But it is free!  Comes with HOA dues.  Such a deal.


      Sent from my iPhone


        On Oct 6, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com 
wrote:


         
        If I was in charge of laws, they wouldn't be so legalistic.  


        You don't have exclusivity per se, but in de facto nobody will buy 
anything else when they're already forced to pay you whether they like it or 
not.  They'd have to actively hate you before they'll even consider something 
else.  You'd have to steal their birthdays before they consider another option, 
and you'd have to violate their daughters before they're willing to pay what 
the installation of the other option will actually cost.


        .....that doesn't make it a bad deal for you, of course.  Competitors 
will cry foul because you can make money and they can't, but that doesn't mean 
they wouldn't do the same thing if they could.




        On 10/5/2020 8:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:


          We don’t have exclusivity, we just have a service included in HOA 
fees.  They can have any service provider they want.
          But the service provider will have to do an overbuild into a 
saturated area.  I would bet they will not do it.  

          From: Mark Radabaugh 
          Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 5:52 PM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

          
https://www.keglerbrown.com/publications/mdus-vs-the-fcc-exclusivity-service-agreements-with-cable-and-internet-providers/
 
          https://www.nexttv.com/news/fcc-bans-exclusive-mdu-deals-296566
          FCC Bans Exclusivity Contracts — HOA Law Blog — February 
...www.hoalawblog.com › fcc_bans_exclusivity_contracts

          Pay your money and take your chances

          Mark



            On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            Lots of companies doing these deals.  MDU, subdivisions.  What 
would be illegal about it?  The homeowners are free to go after any service 
they want, but they are locked into my service.  This has been litigated at the 
CATV level years ago and was found legal.  

            On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:28 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> 
wrote:

              I think you are going to find that arrangement is highly illegal 
from an FCC standpoint.   When the deal gets blown out by the next company that 
sues you and the HOA over it, is it going to be worth your time and investment? 

              Mark



                On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

                I am getting some traction with developers for my fiber.  They 
want me to come in, they will put the subscription to my service as part of the 
HOA fees.  They will not let others in the ditch.  All for 10% of the gross.  
So I get 100% take rate.  I am not unhappy with the deal.  But I am wondering 
about agreeing to a perpetual royalty.  Anyone else done one of these deals?
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