Like Cielo, SAF, etc., Aviat also has a low latency version of their IRU and 
ODU 600 radio lines.

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote:
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> If you are the second fastest on a route you might as well not have a route.
> 
> These guys will rip and replace even if they just put it up if it will get a 
> few nanoseconds faster.  And the gear, as being custom built with low 
> volumes, is very expensive.
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>> Nate Burke <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>  September 1, 2020 at 10:11
>> LOL 'Enough Money'  These are traders we're talking about.  They have 
>> bottomless pockets.  They'll spend $100M on a project just to see if it 
>> works, then abandon it 6 months later.  The tower owners we talk to hate 
>> these guys, they come in, spend a ton of money on buildouts, then just stop 
>> paying rent a few months down the way and abandon everything.  They've 
>> learned to just charge a lot up front, and these guys will pay it.  
>> 
>> On 9/1/2020 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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>> ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> September 1, 2020 at 09:57
>> Enough money behind it, they might be able to get a channel on every HF band.
>> You don’t need to send much info to by or sell.  I wonder if a troposcatter 
>> system could be licensed?
>> Or launch a stratosphere balloon to use as an analog repeater. 
>>  
>> From: Caleb Knauer <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:35 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP
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>> Interesting. I’ll check it out.
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>> Caleb Knauer <mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>  September 1, 2020 at 09:35
>> Interesting. I’ll check it out. 
>> 
>> 
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>> Nate Burke <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>  September 1, 2020 at 09:18
>> It seems most of what I still notice are the Cielo radios.  But almost all 
>> of the HFT Guys in Chicago have switched over to the Ionosphere antennas.  
>> Where they have the huge yagi antennas with just a single licensed link back 
>> to the Datacenter.  I can count 10 different sites within 15 miles that are 
>> using this setup.  One of the towers we are on is in the process of 
>> installing a 3 antenna system, 30'x40' antennas at 100', 125' and 150'.  
>> Single licensed radio back to the CME datacenter.  
>> 
>> On 9/1/2020 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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>> Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>  September 1, 2020 at 09:03
>> There is a whole other class of low-latency wireless gear. FEC is removed. 
>> ARQ is nowhere to be found.
>> 
>> The radios are optimized so that the data spends as few picoseconds as 
>> possible in the radio.
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>> From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:47:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP
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>> All the licensed gear I know of is full duplex, and should have near wire 
>> speed latency. The latency should be proportional to the link distance.
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>> On 9/1/2020 7:36 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
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