If you are the second fastest on a route you might as well not have a route.

These guys will rip and replace even if they just put it up if it will
get a few nanoseconds faster.  And the gear, as being custom built with
low volumes, is very expensive.

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> Nate Burke <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>
> September 1, 2020 at 10:11
> LOL 'Enough Money'  These are traders we're talking about.  They have
> bottomless pockets.  They'll spend $100M on a project just to see if
> it works, then abandon it 6 months later.  The tower owners we talk to
> hate these guys, they come in, spend a ton of money on buildouts, then
> just stop paying rent a few months down the way and abandon
> everything.  They've learned to just charge a lot up front, and these
> guys will pay it. 
>
> On 9/1/2020 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> September 1, 2020 at 09:57
> Enough money behind it, they might be able to get a channel on every
> HF band.
> You don’t need to send much info to by or sell.  I wonder if a
> troposcatter system could be licensed?
> Or launch a stratosphere balloon to use as an analog repeater. 
>  
> *From:* Caleb Knauer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:35 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP
>  
> Interesting. I’ll check it out.
>  
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> Caleb Knauer <mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
> September 1, 2020 at 09:35
> Interesting. I’ll check it out. 
>
>
>
> Nate Burke <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>
> September 1, 2020 at 09:18
> It seems most of what I still notice are the Cielo radios.  But almost
> all of the HFT Guys in Chicago have switched over to the Ionosphere
> antennas.  Where they have the huge yagi antennas with just a single
> licensed link back to the Datacenter.  I can count 10 different sites
> within 15 miles that are using this setup.  One of the towers we are
> on is in the process of installing a 3 antenna system, 30'x40'
> antennas at 100', 125' and 150'.  Single licensed radio back to the
> CME datacenter. 
>
> On 9/1/2020 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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> Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
> September 1, 2020 at 09:03
> There is a whole other class of low-latency wireless gear. FEC is
> removed. ARQ is nowhere to be found.
>
> The radios are optimized so that the data spends as few picoseconds as
> possible in the radio.
>
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> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:47:00 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP
>
> All the licensed gear I know of is full duplex, and should have near
> wire speed latency. The latency should be proportional to the link
> distance.
>
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> bp
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>
> On 9/1/2020 7:36 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
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