On 60 Minutes last night they were talking about the infection rate inside a NY prison (they had been talking about Rikers, but I'm not certain in retrospect that it was specifically Rikers). They said the infection rate among guards was 2:1 versus prisoners. They also mentioned that Rikers was not technically a "prison", but a jail. That doesn't really affect the statistic though.
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the problem is prison guards get around, they spend their free time drinking in groups, seeking cocaine and sexing up other peoples wives, theyre one of the worst populations to have an infectious disease
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:44 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
--1900 inmates and 150 staff at the prison in Marion, Ohio have tested positive. That’s 3/4 of the inmates. That herd is gonna have immunity, but it may be a smaller herd.
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they went through three seasons of it, the lady with fauci even talked about it a couple weeks ago. takes three seasons for the herd to have sufficient natural immunity.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:21 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
The main curves were similar to what we are seeing.
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On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
And it went from winter of 1917 through summer in 1918 with summer 1917 almost dying away due to better results in warm weather than Covid-19. The burst back in 1918 was apparently pretty nasty..
On 4/20/20 4:51 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Just look at the Spanish flu curves. They had no vaccine. They conquered it by quarantine and social distancing.
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Then you don't understand social distancing and herd immunity. This is just moving the infection rate out into the future spread over a much longer range. We still get infected to 70-80% before herd immunity kicks in about 2-3 months _before_ the current schedule of vaccine availability. 1/2 over will be 3-4 months from now. Now if someone comes out with a vaccine, different ball game. Oh and the ebola anti-viral... Gilead is testing with the best case possible patients. And results so far don't show anything better with those cases than leaving the patients alone. Sounds like Gilead is doing everything they can to make it sound like their stuff is a winner without actually proving it...
On 4/20/20 8:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I look at the curve and say we are half over.
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That probably is (modestly) good news. But how anyone can look at that curve and say it’s over, I don’t know. That curve is probably dominated by the early hit densely populated areas like New York, where they are still only slightly off the peak death rate and are still piling bodies in refrigerated trucks at hospitals. And the nursing homes and prisons. It hasn’t even begun to sweep over the less dense areas with no hospitals, that will be the long tail of the curve. Then we find out if we screwed up and brought a big second wave.
Very worrisome is the healthcare workers getting infected and dying, dealing with patients dying on every shift, worrying about infecting their families. If this is still coming in waves 1-2 years from now, we aren’t going to have any doctors and nurses. Who would do that job long term, even if they don’t get sick and die? As various people have pointed out, this may be a war, but even soldiers aren’t asked to put their family’s lives at risk.
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Looks a bit Gaussian to me. I hope...
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