Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism

[Bill Prince]

Instead of ventilators, they are just giving oxygen in a couple of different ways. There was an acronym that was mentioned in one of the articles I read, but I can't recall what it was except it had an "O" in it (for oxygen). The big issue with dialysis is that the victims are experiencing above-normal levels of blood clotting. This is messing with their kidneys and also clogging the filters on the dialysis machines.

I'm OK with re-purposing vaccine vats to produce beer.

bp
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On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What are the treatments that are now working?  I try to be optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people die.  They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.  Even if it were working, ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they are just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the infection.  And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.

 

I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.

 

Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine production.  Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population.  And not in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats.  And the interesting part is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing beer.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism

 

Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. Remember, the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical community has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.

Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over 1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1 million, I would be more encouraged.

bp
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On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Looks a bit Gaussian to me.  I hope...

 

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