Exactly, you have to cap satellite based wireless / mobile wireless - at least if you want to keep the available bandwidth per user at a respectable level. Streaming video will burn through bandwidth caps in a hurry, and anymore that is basically the entirety of the reason for a home internet connection.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Think about how many residential customers no longer have satellite TV. > They don’t like antennas and they like the semi al carte that streaming > provides. With 8K tvs and more content daily the streaming BW is just > going to go up and up and up. > > I think when fiber is compared to any wireless technology it will be the > best value. The wireless providers are all going to have some kind of > limit or cap on quantity. They cannot compete with a 1 GIG unlimited fiber > connection for $50-$70 I seriously doubt Musk’s satellite will be able to > compete with that. Or any so-called 5G provider. > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:24 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future > > To qualify that a bit, I'm referring to residential users. There may be > niche markets like HFT that will have benefits when using it. > > On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Jason McKemie <j.mckemie@veloxinetbroadband. > com> wrote: > >> The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main >> businesses, not their primary purpose. At best I don't think this is going >> to be anything besides a better alternative to other satellite internet >> options. >> >> On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Guys, lots of misinformation here. >>> >>> They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla >>> cars. It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening. All Tesla's >>> have 3G or 4G modems already built-in to them along with WiFi. Updates are >>> sent via WiFi first and after the fleet has received the updates, they >>> eventually push it to cars via cellular data that haven't updated via WiFi. >>> >>> Regarding B2B backhaul, I don't believe you'll see this as an option >>> anytime soon for WISP's or other ISP's. They're targeting residential and >>> small businesses as well as government contracts. The cost if they did >>> offer B2B backhaul services would likely be higher than fiber to your >>> network. Please stop thinking this will happen as I bet it will not. >>> >>> They may offer a self install option but they'll also have a contractor >>> to perform most installs for a cost is my guess. Maybe they'll send a self >>> install kit for X price and if you can't get it working, they'll schedule a >>> contract install for XX price. >>> >>> I'll also say that you should not doubt Elon's passion to achieve great >>> things. I have a Tesla and it's a work of art and by far the best vehicle >>> I've ever driven. 99% of people who have driven one also think this. Tesla >>> is succeeding, SpaceX is on it's way there, The Boring Company is half done >>> with their Vegas tunnel, and Starlink will likely be a viable competitor >>> for us. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Can you link that? What exactly were they testing? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Somehow they passed a first review from US DOD... Can't be all smoke >>>>> and mirrors in space... >>>>> >>>>> On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: >>>>> > I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of >>>>> over-promising >>>>> > under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world >>>>> runs >>>>> > with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like >>>>> the >>>>> > second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and >>>>> they >>>>> > are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is >>>>> that >>>>> > even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there >>>>> > ain't no phased antenna with motors in it. >>>>> > >>>>> > Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who >>>>> takes a >>>>> > twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired >>>>> > information. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com >>>>> > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, >>>>> it will >>>>> > become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be >>>>> > dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. >>>>> Higher >>>>> > speed >>>>> > wireless will be very, very local. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > bp >>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> > >>>>> > On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>> > > I don’t know why, but this evening got me thinking about >>>>> > broadband delivery over the past 30 years and the future of >>>>> broadband. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was >>>>> > amazing and many companies sprung up offering the service. Giants >>>>> > like AOL and Prodigy. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up >>>>> has >>>>> > all but died. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone >>>>> through >>>>> > several iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless >>>>> > will be dead technologies with fiber at the fore front? >>>>> Possibly. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > But then..... is fiber really future proof? We are talking >>>>> about >>>>> > investing hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because >>>>> > it’s “the future”. But is it? >>>>> > > >>>>> > > So far every technology delivery mechanism to date has become >>>>> > obsolete in as little as 6-10 years. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > AF mailing list >>>>> > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>>>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Steffl >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >> ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >
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