I agree, cost is reason number one, although I do think non-linear video appeals to instant gratification nature as well.
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > Maybe it just reflects my customer base, but by far the #1 reason I hear > for streaming instead of sat TV is cost. People say DirecTV is too > expensive. > > > > #2 reason is probably binge watching. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:33 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future > > > > Think about how many residential customers no longer have satellite TV. > They don’t like antennas and they like the semi al carte that streaming > provides. With 8K tvs and more content daily the streaming BW is just > going to go up and up and up. > > > > I think when fiber is compared to any wireless technology it will be the > best value. The wireless providers are all going to have some kind of > limit or cap on quantity. They cannot compete with a 1 GIG unlimited fiber > connection for $50-$70 I seriously doubt Musk’s satellite will be able to > compete with that. Or any so-called 5G provider. > > > > *From:* Jason McKemie > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:24 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future > > > > To qualify that a bit, I'm referring to residential users. There may be > niche markets like HFT that will have benefits when using it. > > On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Jason McKemie <j.mckemie@veloxinetbroadband. > com> wrote: > > The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main > businesses, not their primary purpose. At best I don't think this is going > to be anything besides a better alternative to other satellite internet > options. > > On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: > > Guys, lots of misinformation here. > > > > They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla > cars. It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening. All Tesla's > have 3G or 4G modems already built-in to them along with WiFi. Updates are > sent via WiFi first and after the fleet has received the updates, they > eventually push it to cars via cellular data that haven't updated via WiFi. > > > > Regarding B2B backhaul, I don't believe you'll see this as an option > anytime soon for WISP's or other ISP's. They're targeting residential and > small businesses as well as government contracts. The cost if they did > offer B2B backhaul services would likely be higher than fiber to your > network. Please stop thinking this will happen as I bet it will not. > > > > They may offer a self install option but they'll also have a contractor to > perform most installs for a cost is my guess. Maybe they'll send a self > install kit for X price and if you can't get it working, they'll schedule a > contract install for XX price. > > > > I'll also say that you should not doubt Elon's passion to achieve great > things. I have a Tesla and it's a work of art and by far the best vehicle > I've ever driven. 99% of people who have driven one also think this. Tesla > is succeeding, SpaceX is on it's way there, The Boring Company is half done > with their Vegas tunnel, and Starlink will likely be a viable competitor > for us. > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you link that? What exactly were they testing? > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: > > Somehow they passed a first review from US DOD... Can't be all smoke > and mirrors in space... > > On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > > I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising > > under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs > > with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the > > second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they > > are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is that > > even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there > > ain't no phased antenna with motors in it. > > > > Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who takes a > > twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired > > information. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com > <part15...@gmail.com%20%0b>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com > <part15...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, it > will > > become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be > > dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. Higher > > speed > > wireless will be very, very local. > > > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > > I don’t know why, but this evening got me thinking about > > broadband delivery over the past 30 years and the future of > broadband. > > > > > > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was > > amazing and many companies sprung up offering the service. Giants > > like AOL and Prodigy. > > > > > > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up has > > all but died. > > > > > > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone through > > several iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber. > > > > > > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless > > will be dead technologies with fiber at the fore front? Possibly. > > > > > > But then..... is fiber really future proof? We are talking about > > investing hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because > > it’s “the future”. But is it? > > > > > > So far every technology delivery mechanism to date has become > > obsolete in as little as 6-10 years. > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <AF@af.afmug.com>> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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