um, no, Starlink is now becoming the primary reason for the huge run-up in valuation for SpaceX...

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-future-multibillion-dollar-valuation-starlink-internet-morgan-stanley-2019-9


On 1/21/20 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main businesses, not their primary purpose. At best I don't think this is going to be anything besides a better alternative to other satellite internet options.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

    Guys, lots of misinformation here.

    They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into
    Tesla cars. It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening.
    All Tesla's have 3G or 4G modems already built-in to them along
    with WiFi. Updates are sent via WiFi first and after the fleet has
    received the updates, they eventually push it to cars via cellular
    data that haven't updated via WiFi.

    Regarding B2B backhaul, I don't believe you'll see this as an
    option anytime soon for WISP's or other ISP's. They're targeting
    residential and small businesses as well as government contracts.
    The cost if they did offer B2B backhaul services would likely be
    higher than fiber to your network. Please stop thinking this will
    happen as I bet it will not.

    They may offer a self install option but they'll also have a
    contractor to perform most installs for a cost is my guess. Maybe
    they'll send a self install kit for X price and if you can't get
    it working, they'll schedule a contract install for XX price.

    I'll also say that you should not doubt Elon's passion to achieve
    great things. I have a Tesla and it's a work of art and by far the
    best vehicle I've ever driven. 99% of people who have driven one
    also think this. Tesla is succeeding, SpaceX is on it's way there,
    The Boring Company is half done with their Vegas tunnel, and
    Starlink will likely be a viable competitor for us.

    On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com
    <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Can you link that? What exactly were they testing?


        On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Robert Andrews
        <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

            Somehow they passed a first review from US DOD...   Can't
            be all smoke
            and mirrors in space...

            On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
            > I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of
            over-promising
            > under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details
            but the world runs
            > with it and puts out all these data models that make it
            seem like the
            > second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo
            <$200 and they
            > are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or
            details. How is that
            > even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive
            cost and there
            > ain't no phased antenna with motors in it.
            >
            > Then all you read online is the cult following of
            spaceslax who takes a
            > twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the
            same tired
            > information.
            >
            >
            >
            > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince
            <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
            > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com
            <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
            >
            >     If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what
            it's hyped, it will
            >     become the future of rural internet. Urban is still
            going to be
            >     dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable
            future. Higher
            >     speed
            >     wireless will be very, very local.
            >
            >
            >     bp
            >     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
            >
            >     On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
            >      > I don’t know why, but this evening got me
            thinking about
            >     broadband delivery over the past 30 years and the
            future of broadband.
            >      >
            >      > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and
            that was
            >     amazing and many companies sprung up offering the
            service. Giants
            >     like AOL and Prodigy.
            >      >
            >      > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless
            and dial-up has
            >     all but died.
            >      >
            >      > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless
            have gone through
            >     several iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber.
            >      >
            >      > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable
            and wireless
            >     will be dead technologies with fiber at the fore
            front?  Possibly.
            >      >
            >      > But then..... is fiber really future proof?  We
            are talking about
            >     investing hundreds of millions into fiber
            infrastructure, because
            >     it’s “the future”. But is it?
            >      >
            >      > So far every technology delivery mechanism to
            date has become
            >     obsolete in as little as 6-10 years.
            >
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