Yeah... if they do try to go with the self install model, I would bet
they'll abandon that idea pretty quickly... just like everybody else has.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> OK but are these phased array antennas like beam steering well they have
> stepper motors in them? Because the moment you add motors you had parts
> that are going to break sooner or later.
>
> Plus if we really think that a self install is going to work for a
> customer I think we are giving the customer way too much credit.
>
> First of all a cable still Hass to be run to the antenna and put through
> the wall of the house, secondly we all know customers are going to try to
> install it in the worst possible location, under a tree, under a deck, or
> someplace that has great aesthetic value but terrible propagation to the
> night sky.
>
> On Jan 21, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> "Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are starting in 2020, but
> there's no pictures or details. How is that even possible? We're buying
> 450b at a more expensive cost and there ain't no phased antenna with motors
> in it."
>
> The question is what do the parts or materials actually cost in large
> quantities? Cambium makes its money off of selling 450s. They aren't
> interested in selling them to you as cheap as possible so you can make more
> recurring revenue. SpaceX wants a piece of that 30B recurring revenue and
> in order to do that they need a ~$200 CPE that users could install
> themselves or have joe taskrabbit install for them with nothing more then
> a screwdriver and perhaps a cordless drill. Elon has shown time and time
> again that he is willing to go all in any time the pot odds are good. There
> are some great pot odds here and I wouldn't bet against Elon, at least in
> the long run.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising
>> under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs
>> with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the
>> second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are
>> starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is that even
>> possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there ain't no
>> phased antenna with motors in it.
>>
>> Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who takes a
>> twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired
>> information.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, it will
>>> become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be
>>> dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. Higher speed
>>> wireless will be very, very local.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> > I don’t know why, but this evening got me thinking about broadband
>>> delivery over the past 30 years and the future of broadband.
>>> >
>>> > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was amazing and
>>> many companies sprung up offering the service. Giants like AOL and Prodigy.
>>> >
>>> > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up has all
>>> but died.
>>> >
>>> > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone through
>>> several iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber.
>>> >
>>> > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless will be
>>> dead technologies with fiber at the fore front? Possibly.
>>> >
>>> > But then..... is fiber really future proof? We are talking about
>>> investing hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because it’s “the
>>> future”. But is it?
>>> >
>>> > So far every technology delivery mechanism to date has become obsolete
>>> in as little as 6-10 years.
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