The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main
businesses, not their primary purpose. At best I don't think this is going
to be anything besides a better alternative to other satellite internet
options.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

> Guys, lots of misinformation here.
>
> They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla
> cars. It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening. All Tesla's
> have 3G or 4G modems already built-in to them along with WiFi. Updates are
> sent via WiFi first and after the fleet has received the updates, they
> eventually push it to cars via cellular data that haven't updated via WiFi.
>
> Regarding B2B backhaul, I don't believe you'll see this as an option
> anytime soon for WISP's or other ISP's. They're targeting residential and
> small businesses as well as government contracts. The cost if they did
> offer B2B backhaul services would likely be higher than fiber to your
> network. Please stop thinking this will happen as I bet it will not.
>
> They may offer a self install option but they'll also have a contractor to
> perform most installs for a cost is my guess. Maybe they'll send a self
> install kit for X price and if you can't get it working, they'll schedule a
> contract install for XX price.
>
> I'll also say that you should not doubt Elon's passion to achieve great
> things. I have a Tesla and it's a work of art and by far the best vehicle
> I've ever driven. 99% of people who have driven one also think this. Tesla
> is succeeding, SpaceX is on it's way there, The Boring Company is half done
> with their Vegas tunnel, and Starlink will likely be a viable competitor
> for us.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you link that? What exactly were they testing?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Somehow they passed a first review from US DOD...   Can't be all smoke
>>> and mirrors in space...
>>>
>>> On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>> > I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising
>>> > under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world
>>> runs
>>> > with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the
>>> > second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and
>>> they
>>> > are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is that
>>> > even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there
>>> > ain't no phased antenna with motors in it.
>>> >
>>> > Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who takes
>>> a
>>> > twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired
>>> > information.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, it
>>> will
>>> >     become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be
>>> >     dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. Higher
>>> >     speed
>>> >     wireless will be very, very local.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     bp
>>> >     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> >     On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> >      > I don’t know why, but this evening got me thinking about
>>> >     broadband delivery over the past 30 years and the future of
>>> broadband.
>>> >      >
>>> >      > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was
>>> >     amazing and many companies sprung up offering the service. Giants
>>> >     like AOL and Prodigy.
>>> >      >
>>> >      > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up
>>> has
>>> >     all but died.
>>> >      >
>>> >      > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone through
>>> >     several iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber.
>>> >      >
>>> >      > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless
>>> >     will be dead technologies with fiber at the fore front?  Possibly.
>>> >      >
>>> >      > But then..... is fiber really future proof?  We are talking
>>> about
>>> >     investing hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because
>>> >     it’s “the future”. But is it?
>>> >      >
>>> >      > So far every technology delivery mechanism to date has become
>>> >     obsolete in as little as 6-10 years.
>>> >
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