I would say it more nicely, but IMO there's a very valid point here.  Having been at both a 100% rural WISP and an urban WISP running side by side with cable I can say that it's less stressful for you if the unsatisfied customers have a real option to leave. It forces you to stay on top of your game, but also allows a pressure valve to release the customers you can never satisfy. And wouldn't we all like to have only the low to median usage and non-complaining customers?  I don't see anything wrong with trying to strategically dis-incentivize the ones you don't want.

In Darin's shoes the thing I'd try to remember is that the GB values are going to be a moving target trending ever upwards. You'll have to evaluate and probably raise those GB allowances every year to keep the median customers satisfied and maintain that balance.

-Adam


On 11/16/2019 3:07 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Matt,

You can simply go away. We have competitor wisp's and many have poor reviews. We simply do it best and have the highest Facebook ratings of any ISP.

We simply want to make heavy users pay more. Why should we raise prices for all customers when only a small percentage are the ones driving us to upgrade things? I'll take 5 average customers at 200gb per month over one customer using 1TB.

You may be a tech guy but not understand business very well. The point of this is to drive away bad customers and keep good ones. Good customers will not be penalized with these plans. Fewer customers with the same amount of revenue means higher profit, plain and simple.




On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 1:52 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

    Wow. Yikes. If I was in your area you’d be driving me to start a
    competing ISP with you.

    You’ll drive your users away.

    Seriously. It doesn’t cost that much to upgrade a tower or
    backhaul to support more capacity.

    On Nov 16, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
    <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

    We're moving away from "truly unlimited" plans and going to
    unlimited with X amount of high-speed data between noon and
    midnight.

    For example, we'll have plans with high-speed data amounts of 65,
    300, 600, 900, 1200, 1800GB a month with that data only being
    counted 12 hours each day. Outside noon to midnight, the data
    will not count to encourage them to shift large downloads to our
    off peak times. If they insist on streaming on 4 devices during
    peak and using 100GB per day like some homes, their bill will be
    well over $250 a month. Here is our rural pricing for these
    proposed plans. Once they hit their threshold, they slow down to
    1 mbps. We will never have overage charges so they're in full
    control of their cost. Either they lower their usage or pay more
    to continue the high usage.

    What I call abusive usage continues to increase and I feel we
    need to have plans like these to make heavy users pay for the
    cost of us upgrading our gear earlier than planned for. These
    plans are also still way better than any satellite plan in terms
    of caps and latency.


    35 Meg/65GB - $65

    25 Meg/300GB - $9035 Meg/600GB - $110

    45 Meg/900GB - $130

    55 Meg/1,200GB - $150

    55-100 Meg/1,800GB - $200



    On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 11:50 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com
    <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:

        Give them what you sell them.  If they call in more than 3
        times complaining then say 'you obviously can't provide them
        the experience they're expecting, and that you'll be out in a
        few days to remove the equipment.'  That should either
        silence them, or push them to hughesnet and they can see what
        being rural really means.

        On 11/16/2019 11:31 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        Anybody else losing their patience with streamers?

        The people who just moved from somewhere they had gigabit
        fiber to the middle of nowhere in a low spot surrounded by
        tons of trees, and say they stream all their TV on 3-4
        screens at the same time.

        I want to yell at them, if you had affordable blazing fast
        Internet, and it’s that important to you, why did you move? 
        And if you had to move, why didn’t you move to a nice suburb
        with fiber or at least cable?  And why do you have to stream
        everything?  You could get satellite TV. Yes, it’s
        expensive, get over it.  You could put up a TV antenna.  You
        could get DVDs by mail.  Or if moving to the country was so
        important, you could go out on the ATV or horse or
        snowmobile, or go hunting, or feed the chickens and mini
        goats.  If they’re streaming all the time, I have to suspect
        the reason for moving to Green Acres was to save on property
        taxes, and the reason for streaming is to avoid paying
        $200/month to DirecTV or DISH.

        It’s gotten so  bad, a significant number of prospective
        customers say they only want Internet to stream, anything
        else they can do on their phone. And when a streaming
        subscription is sub $10 (or free with Amazon Prime), they’re
        thinking Internet is like shipping, it shouldn’t cost more
        than the item being delivered.

        I know, “OK boomer”.



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