"Write about web2py, advertise it!" is what got web2py on spam lists on reddit, and various other sites, is why the majority of django peoples are hostile towards web2py. (note, i said majority not all).
Keep by the saying "If you build it, they will come" -Thadeus On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Yarko Tymciurak < resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Dec 2, 11:00 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > Yarko I disagree. Most of our bug reports about new features being > > tested by users. We use this mailing list not just to provide help > > about stable version but also to debug trunk version and discuss new > > features. We also have attracted a lot of non-python programmers who, > > of course, have questions. > > So, if I understand, your point is that group activity is a _good_ > predictor of tool use. > > I stand by my position that it is the nail you hit, not the hammer, > which is important - that is, tool group activity is not correlated > with how widely a tool is found to be useful and accepted. In fact, > there can be either no correlation, or negative (inverse) correlation. > > Then we agree to disagree - who cares about web2py, except in how it > enables people to get things done (it's only purpose, really). > We all agree - certainly I agree - that to get started, it is very > simple. There are areas it excels in from a developer perspective, > and areas it still needs to evolve or restructure. > > In any case, I am not against web2py - I _am_ against "write about > web2py, advertise it!" --- as that is not important; the work done > with it is. > > I will guess that on this last point we do not disagree as much as on > the first point you made (about group statistics - website traffic > statistics are much more interesting ;-). > > Regards, > - Yarko > > > > The traffic (measures by number of users, web site hits, messages > > posted) is important to assess our relative growth. In fact the > > different measures are strongly correlated. > > > > The point is that it cannot be used to compare one project with > > another. For example the number of posts does not only depend on > > usage, it also depends on the project size and kind of usage. A > > project may use a different mechanism than the mailing list for > > testing and bug report. A project may be very simple and not require a > > lot of communication. > > > > Anyway, I posted the data, anybody can interpret that as they please. > > I would prefer if we keep discussion to technical issues. > > > > If people have concrete examples about things we can do to increase > > awareness, I am interested. > > > > Massimo > > > > On Dec 2, 10:41 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 10:10 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > monthly post numbers are available here: > http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/about > > > > > To get just HOW MUCH this is irrelevant, take a look athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/codereview-discuss/about > > > > > This is the reitveld code review tool written by Guido in Python / > > > Django for GAE - it's what is is used for (among other things) all the > > > activitiy on Chrome (the open source Chromium browser ports to other > > > platforms, including Linux). There are other internal google projects > > > which use this, and it's available for any project on code.google.com. > > > > > November: web2py: 1908; codereview: 5 > > > > > I will suggest that the user base and amount of traffic that reitveld > > > app sees is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than ... ok, I'll go out > > > (potentially) on a limb here: ALL web2py apps worldwide saw in > > > November. > > > > > LOTS of questions, bug reports, and need for help in using is not a > > > good sign. LOW user activity, few question (when correlated with high > > > use) --- that is a good sign; > > > > > - Yarko > > > > > > On Dec 3, 1:21 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > I agree but that is difficult to measure. > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 7:59 pm, waTR <r...@devshell.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think a more valid statistic is # of postings/ month. I would > argue > > > > > > an inactive user is not necessarily a good thing. Not to throw > water > > > > > > on the great news or anything. It is still a positive indicator > that > > > > > > the user numbers are growing. Go web2py!! > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 3:58 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > yes. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 4:28 pm, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > y-axis: users, > > > > > > > > x-axis: days(?) > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2:48 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >https://www.web2py.com/examples/static/users.jpg > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "web2py-users" group. > To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<web2py%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. 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