On Dec 2, 11:00 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > Yarko I disagree. Most of our bug reports about new features being > tested by users. We use this mailing list not just to provide help > about stable version but also to debug trunk version and discuss new > features. We also have attracted a lot of non-python programmers who, > of course, have questions.
So, if I understand, your point is that group activity is a _good_ predictor of tool use. I stand by my position that it is the nail you hit, not the hammer, which is important - that is, tool group activity is not correlated with how widely a tool is found to be useful and accepted. In fact, there can be either no correlation, or negative (inverse) correlation. Then we agree to disagree - who cares about web2py, except in how it enables people to get things done (it's only purpose, really). We all agree - certainly I agree - that to get started, it is very simple. There are areas it excels in from a developer perspective, and areas it still needs to evolve or restructure. In any case, I am not against web2py - I _am_ against "write about web2py, advertise it!" --- as that is not important; the work done with it is. I will guess that on this last point we do not disagree as much as on the first point you made (about group statistics - website traffic statistics are much more interesting ;-). Regards, - Yarko > > The traffic (measures by number of users, web site hits, messages > posted) is important to assess our relative growth. In fact the > different measures are strongly correlated. > > The point is that it cannot be used to compare one project with > another. For example the number of posts does not only depend on > usage, it also depends on the project size and kind of usage. A > project may use a different mechanism than the mailing list for > testing and bug report. A project may be very simple and not require a > lot of communication. > > Anyway, I posted the data, anybody can interpret that as they please. > I would prefer if we keep discussion to technical issues. > > If people have concrete examples about things we can do to increase > awareness, I am interested. > > Massimo > > On Dec 2, 10:41 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Dec 2, 10:10 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > monthly post numbers are available > > > here:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/about > > > To get just HOW MUCH this is irrelevant, take a look > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/codereview-discuss/about > > > This is the reitveld code review tool written by Guido in Python / > > Django for GAE - it's what is is used for (among other things) all the > > activitiy on Chrome (the open source Chromium browser ports to other > > platforms, including Linux). There are other internal google projects > > which use this, and it's available for any project on code.google.com. > > > November: web2py: 1908; codereview: 5 > > > I will suggest that the user base and amount of traffic that reitveld > > app sees is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than ... ok, I'll go out > > (potentially) on a limb here: ALL web2py apps worldwide saw in > > November. > > > LOTS of questions, bug reports, and need for help in using is not a > > good sign. LOW user activity, few question (when correlated with high > > use) --- that is a good sign; > > > - Yarko > > > > On Dec 3, 1:21 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > I agree but that is difficult to measure. > > > > > On Dec 2, 7:59 pm, waTR <r...@devshell.org> wrote: > > > > > > I think a more valid statistic is # of postings/ month. I would argue > > > > > an inactive user is not necessarily a good thing. Not to throw water > > > > > on the great news or anything. It is still a positive indicator that > > > > > the user numbers are growing. Go web2py!! > > > > > > On Dec 2, 3:58 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > yes. > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 4:28 pm, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > y-axis: users, > > > > > > > x-axis: days(?) > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2:48 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > >https://www.web2py.com/examples/static/users.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
