Ok, took a few days off to work on company project (a adventure game engine programmed completely in gwt as it happens).
Looking over that Google Doc, I copyed the settings into eclipse's run options. However, on running I got a few errors; Dec 10, 2013 7:34:13 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.waveserver.CertificateManagerImpl <init> WARNING: ** SIGNATURE VERIFICATION DISABLED ** see flag "waveserver_disable_verification" Dec 10, 2013 7:34:14 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.waveserver.WaveServerImpl <init> INFO: Wave Server configured to host local domains: [local.net] Dec 10, 2013 7:34:14 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.rpc.ServerRpcProvider parseAddressList WARNING: Ignoring duplicate address in http addresses list: Duplicate entry 'localhost:9898' resolved to 127.0.0.1 Dec 10, 2013 7:34:17 AM com.google.gson.ParameterizedTypeHandlerMap register WARNING: Overriding the existing type handler for class com.google.wave.api.Element Dec 10, 2013 7:34:17 AM com.google.gson.ParameterizedTypeHandlerMap register WARNING: Overriding the existing type handler for class com.google.wave.api.Element Dec 10, 2013 7:34:17 AM com.google.gson.ParameterizedTypeHandlerMap register WARNING: Overriding the existing type handler for class com.google.wave.api.Attachment Dec 10, 2013 7:34:17 AM com.google.gson.ParameterizedTypeHandlerMap register WARNING: Overriding the existing type handler for class com.google.wave.api.Attachment Dec 10, 2013 7:34:21 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.ServerMain run INFO: Starting server 2013-12-10 07:34:22.140:INFO:oejs.Server:jetty-8.1.1.v20120215 2013-12-10 07:34:22.875:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:started o.e.j.w.WebAppContext{/,[file:/C:/TomsProjects/wave/war/]} 2013-12-10 07:34:22.875:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:started o.e.j.w.WebAppContext{/,[file:/C:/TomsProjects/wave/war/]} 2013-12-10 07:34:22.875:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:started o.e.j.w.WebAppContext{/,[file:/C:/TomsProjects/wave/war/]} Dec 10, 2013 7:34:24 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.ServerMain$GadgetProxyServlet <init> INFO: Starting GadgetProxyServlet for gmodules.com:80 2013-12-10 07:34:25.250:INFO:oejsKwbs.ServerMain$GadgetProxyServlet, annotation=[none]]:Key[type=org.waveprotocol.box.server.ServerMain$GadgetProxyServlet, annotation=[none]] @ /gadgets to http://gmodules.com:80/gadgets Dec 10, 2013 7:34:25 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.rpc.AbstractWaveSocketIOServlet init INFO: Transport handlers loaded: {websocket=class com.glines.socketio.server.transport.jetty.JettyWebSocketTransportHandler, flashsocket=class com.glines.socketio.server.transport.jetty.JettyWebSocketTransportHandler, htmlfile=class com.glines.socketio.server.transport.jetty.JettyContinuationTransportHandler, jsonp-polling=class com.glines.socketio.server.transport.jetty.JettyContinuationTransportHandler, xhr-multipart=class com.glines.socketio.server.transport.jetty.JettyContinuationTransportHandler, xhr-polling=class com.glines.socketio.server.transport.jetty.JettyContinuationTransportHandler} Dec 10, 2013 7:34:25 AM org.waveprotocol.box.server.rpc.AbstractWaveSocketIOServlet init INFO: Transports loaded: [xhr-polling, xhr-multipart, jsonp-polling, websocket, flashsocket, htmlfile] 2013-12-10 07:34:25.968:INFO:oejs.AbstractConnector:Started SelectChannelConnector@127.0.0.1:9898 -- Despite these, I think its working. At least "127.0.0.1:9898" in chrome pops up a page with "*Welcome to Wave in a Box* @local.net" and a login screen. Could it be? can I finally be ready to start poking at code, rather then configuration? I hope so ;) So, I guess next question; whats the default logins or how do I set them? Does registration work while its running? ~~~ Thomas & Bertines online review show: http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) On 8 December 2013 02:05, Frank R. <renfeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's good. We didn't lose anything. I thought I had attached the > screenshots of how to config Eclipse to run/debug Wave in a Box. But, I > embedded them in the Google Doc instead. wave-dev-on-cinnamon - Google > Drive< > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iGFLmAzi3SaEH0J6SNlaq6wubesRWlO2A8bvqxPp-p4/edit# > > > . > > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I can see screenshots, at least, some. Regarding compile times, java > > compliance level and the compile errors if you dont set it. > > > > ~~~ > > Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) > > > > > > On 7 December 2013 23:49, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > Attachments are dropped by the list. > > > > > > Ali > > > On 7 Dec 2013 22:28, "Frank R." <renfeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fantastic work there. > > > > > For the moment, I am going to continue trying to set it up > properly - > > > and > > > > > making notes to update/clarify the guide as appropriate, but its > good > > > to > > > > > have that as a fallback. > > > > > > > > > > Currently still trying to get the client running; > > > > > > > > > > >>you need to create a debug/run configuration with arguments set > > > > properly. > > > > > >>you can find the arguments by reading run.sh > > > > > > > > > > I assume you mean "run-server.sh" (or-import or -export). I don't > see > > > > just > > > > > a "run.sh". > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the typo. run-server.sh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then again, I couldn't find any obvious arguments for the client in > > > those > > > > > files either. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone here is using eclipse could give me a screenshot of their > > run > > > > > settings? > > > > > > > > > Can you see the screenshots attached to my previous emails? Can > anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alternatively, just let me know what the html file is the webclient > > is > > > > > supposed to be using as thats what it doesnt seem to know. > > > Overall.html? > > > > > Index.html? frame.html? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ > > > > > Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 December 2013 12:25, Frank R. <renfeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the OVA ready for downloading. > > > > > > wave-dev-on-cinnamon.ova< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_OYKagpJexmdG5QYzhZeC1QNTg/edit?usp=drive_web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > frank, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats pretty awesome, my only question is why you used LM 13 > and > > > not > > > > > say > > > > > > a > > > > > > > debian cmd line only distro? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, it would be a development box with JDK, Ant, Eclipse, > > Solr, > > > > and > > > > > > source code preinstalled and ready to use, i.e. ready for a > > developer > > > > to > > > > > > start in a matter of seconds. It's for you to start playing with > > the > > > > > code, > > > > > > rather than simply a demo server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > either way nice work :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Frank R. <renfeng...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've created a vm. Now, I'm uploading it to Google Drive for > > > > sharing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the log of how I made it. > > > > > > > > wave-dev-on-cinnamon< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iGFLmAzi3SaEH0J6SNlaq6wubesRWlO2A8bvqxPp-p4/edit?usp=drive_web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Frank R. < > renfeng...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Thomas Wrobel < > > > > darkfl...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> "BUILD SUCCESSFUL > > > > > > > >>> Total time: 312 minutes 41 seconds" > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Ok, after giving Oracle my "totally real" address and > > "totally > > > > > real" > > > > > > > >>> phone > > > > > > > >>> number I got JDK6 and now Ant is building just fine. > > > > > > > >>> After 5-6 hours its done. > > > > > > > >>> (hours? is that normal? my machines not that great but > > > still...) > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> What is the configuration of your PC? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> It took me 3 minutes 26 seconds to compile gwt. You can read > > > more > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > >> in a log for how I explored the build process on Linux Mint > > 13 - > > > > > > Making > > > > > > > >> of Start your own Wave in a Box - Google Drive< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uFzLD6gyY-L5egbztn9FFJjoyWvf3uO3AYnJoSMiTis/edit# > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > >> And the slides, Start your own Wave in a Box - Google Drive< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1k2KqC_h0cU_7Xpgfya8W2B2REkxb_YsQQWL5zBGE-ac/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000 > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > >> Hope that will help. > > > > > > > >> [java] Compile of permutations succeeded > > > > > > > >> [java] Linking into /tmp/wave/war/webclient > > > > > > > >> [java] Link succeeded > > > > > > > >> [java] Compilation succeeded -- 204.776s > > > > > > > >> [touch] Creating /tmp/wave/build/dep/compile-gwt > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> BUILD SUCCESSFUL > > > > > > > >> Total time: 3 minutes 26 seconds > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Suggestion; > > > > > > > >>> Would it be possible to have a virtual machine with > > everything > > > > set > > > > > up > > > > > > > >>> already? or is there technical/license reasons for that to > be > > > > > > > unsuitable? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> I can do that by creating a virtual box image, and exporting > > it > > > as > > > > > OVA > > > > > > > >> file - Open Virtualization Archive, the single-file version > of > > > an > > > > > Open > > > > > > > >> Virtualization Format< > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Virtualization_Format>image. > > > It'll > > > > > > > resemble my Linux Mint box. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Query: > > > > > > > >>> Can Wave be updated to JDK7? is there big issues holding it > > > back > > > > ? > > > > > Or > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > >>> there more open alternatives we can use instead - one that > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > >>> require > > > > > > > >>> handing over personal details to a company? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> You can have JDK7 to compile and run Wave in a Box. I guess > > the > > > > > trick > > > > > > > >> should be that compiler compliance level must be 1.6. I used > > to > > > be > > > > > > > troubled > > > > > > > >> by the problem occasionally. I need to verify that. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Now, I have both 7 and 6 on my Windows 7 box. > > > > > > > >> [image: Inline image 1] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I have the runtime as Java 6. I don't know how I get such > > > settings > > > > > > after > > > > > > > >> upgrading JRE and JDK several times, and removing obsolete > > > > versions. > > > > > > > >> [image: Inline image 2] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> However, my Ant is running on Java 7. I can have a > > > > clean-and-release > > > > > > > >> build. > > > > > > > >> [image: Inline image 3] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> When I have Wave in a Box loaded in Eclipse, I have to make > > sure > > > > the > > > > > > > >> compiler compliance level to be 1.6. > > > > > > > >> [image: Inline image 5] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Or else, I'll have a bunch of compile errors. > > > > > > > >> [image: Inline image 4] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > > > >>> If we want to get more people into Wave development, at my > > > > > experience > > > > > > > >>> here > > > > > > > >>> is the norm, then these might be significant issues. > Possibly > > > > > more-so > > > > > > > >>> then > > > > > > > >>> Apache vs Git. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Regardless, I'll continue my experiences trying to get > > started. > > > > ho > > > > > > hum. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> ~~~ > > > > > > > >>> Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > > > >>> http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > > > >>> Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> On 2 December 2013 23:25, Thomas Wrobel < > darkfl...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > bah...need to sign up to Oracle just to download JDK6 > now? > > > > > > seriously > > > > > > > >>> >_< > > > > > > > >>> > This is the sort of thing that puts people off :-/ > > > > > > > >>> > *files it under "do tommorow" > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > ~~~ > > > > > > > >>> > Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > > > >>> > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > > > >>> > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > On 2 December 2013 22:10, Thomas Wrobel < > > darkfl...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >> ah...no...a fresh download of jdk7 > > > > > > > >>> >> I'll downgrade. > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> >> ~~~ > > > > > > > >>> >> Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > > > >>> >> http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > > > >>> >> Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> >> On 2 December 2013 21:39, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> >>> Are you definitely using jdk6? > > > > > > > >>> >>> On 2 Dec 2013 20:25, "Thomas Wrobel" < > > darkfl...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Thanks - I'll use that one as a reference now, but > I'll > > > aim > > > > > to > > > > > > > >>> >>> edit/update > > > > > > > >>> >>> > the other one (as that seems a bit more "friendly" > for > > > > > someone > > > > > > > >>> getting > > > > > > > >>> >>> > started). > > > > > > > >>> >>> > --- > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Notes #4: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > ant get-third-party is needed before running ant. > > > > > > > >>> >>> > --- Stuck #4: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Build error; > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave>ant Buildfile: > > > > > > > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build.xml > > > > > > > >>> >>> > check-test-dependencies: init-logging: [mkdir] > Created > > > dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\logs [echo] Logging to > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > C:\TomsProjects\wave/build/logs/build_2013-11-29_17-48-35 > > > > > .log > > > > > > > >>> init: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > [mkdir] Created dir: C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\proto > > > > [mkdir] > > > > > > > >>> Created > > > > > > > >>> >>> dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\messages [mkdir] Created > > dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\src [mkdir] Created dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\test [mkdir] Created dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\coverage [mkdir] Created > > dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\dist [mkdir] Created dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\staging [mkdir] Created > dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\dep [mkdir] Created dir: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\test_out compile-proto-dep: > > > > > compile-proto: > > > > > > > >>> [javac] > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Compiling 12 source files to > > > > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build\proto > > > > > > > >>> [javac] > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > C:\TomsProjects\wave\proto_src\org\waveprotocol\box\attachment\Attac > > > > > > > >>> >>> > hmentProto.java:344: warning: [static] static method > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > >>> >>> qualified by > > > > > > > >>> >>> > type name, Builder, instead of by an expression > [javac] > > > > > > > >>> >>> > super.addAll(values, result.attachment_); [javac] ^ > > > [javac] > > > > > > > error: > > > > > > > >>> >>> warnings > > > > > > > >>> >>> > found and -Werror specified [javac] > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > C:\TomsProjects\wave\proto_src\org\waveprotocol\box\common\comms\Wav > > > > > > > >>> >>> > eClientRpc.java:990: warning: [static] static method > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > >>> >>> qualified by > > > > > > > >>> >>> > type name, Builder, instead of by an expression > [javac] > > > > > > > >>> >>> > super.addAll(values, result.waveletIdPrefix_); > [javac] > > ^ > > > > > > > >>> >>> > ...(and a lot of similiar warnings ending in a ... > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > [javac] super.addAll(values, > > > > > > > >>> result.removedContributor_); > > > > > > > >>> >>> > [javac] ^ > > > > > > > >>> >>> > [javac] 1 error > > > > > > > >>> >>> > [javac] 40 warnings > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > BUILD FAILED > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build.xml:100: The following > error > > > > > > occurred > > > > > > > >>> while > > > > > > > >>> >>> > executing > > > > > > > >>> >>> > this line: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build-macros.xml:68: Compile > > failed; > > > > see > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >>> >>> compiler > > > > > > > >>> >>> > error > > > > > > > >>> >>> > output for details. > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Total time: 12 seconds > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > ~~~ > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > > > >>> >>> > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > On 2 December 2013 21:03, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > I think the most up to date installation guide is > the > > > > > README > > > > > > > >>> file - > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > https://github.com/apache/wave/blob/trunk/README > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Thomas Wrobel < > > > > > > > >>> darkfl...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > Stuck #3: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > "ANT" > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > Buildfile: C:\TomsProjects\wave\build.xml > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > check-test-dependencies: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > BUILD FAILED > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > C:\TomsProjects\wave\build.xml:259: You need to > > > execute > > > > > the > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > get-third-party > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > targ > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > et to download dependencies required for tests > > > > > compilation, > > > > > > > >>> i.e. > > > > > > > >>> >>> ant > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > get-third-p > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > arty. third_party/test/emma/emma_ant.jar > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > ~~~ > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it > :) > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > On 2 December 2013 15:13, Thomas Wrobel < > > > > > > darkfl...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > Note #2: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > Should be made clear your need JDK installed, > > with > > > a > > > > > link > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > >>> >>> Java > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > site. (not just JRE). > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > Note #3: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > Should be clarified that the ANT command > doesn't > > > work > > > > > in > > > > > > XP > > > > > > > >>> just > > > > > > > >>> >>> by > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > adding > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > its path to a "ANT" system variable. > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > The path to ANT has to be added to the already > > > > existing > > > > > > > PATH > > > > > > > >>> >>> system > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > variable. (and it should be just to the "bin" > > > > > directory, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >>> >>> \ant at > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > the > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > end shouldn't be there. > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > People can use "echo %PATH%" to check its added > > ok. > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > (I will start expanding/changing the guide as > > soon > > > > as I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > >>> >>> write > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > permission, although I will post changes first > > here > > > > as > > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > >>> in > > > > > > > >>> >>> case > > > > > > > >>> >>> > I > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > have > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > got something wrong or its specific to XP and > > Win7 > > > is > > > > > > > treated > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > differently) > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > ~~~ > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > Thomas & Bertines online review show: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it > > :) > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > On 2 December 2013 02:36, Ali Lown < > > a...@lown.me.uk > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > >> > For the ant, do I just go for the route > (that > > is > > > > the > > > > > > > >>> "wave" > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > directory > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > >> > rather then the "wave-protocol" one that > > > doesn't > > > > > > exist > > > > > > > >>> now? > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > >> Yes. > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >