On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:36 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

 Remember that this is a hypothesis and the coupling between a significant
> number of protons has not been proven.  Also, it needs to be shown that the
> gamma ray that is typically released at the moment that the proton enters
> the nucleus originates from the acceleration of that proton and not some
> other mechanism.
>

We know that gammas are emitted by nuclei in other contexts, such as that
of a metastable isomer.  Such an isomer will give off a gamma at some point
uncorrelated with a scattering event.  The explanation I have read is that
the nucleons are settling into a more stable arrangement.  The image I have
in my mind is of very dense, heavy magnets screeching a little as they snap
into a more stable configuration.  Given that metastable isomers emit
gammas at the rate of some half life, I see no problem with a similar
phenomenon happening at the moment of a fusion event.  I have not read
anything about protons giving off electromagnetic radiation, although I
have wondered about it, in light of the usual explanation that EM radiation
has its origin in the acceleration of electrostatically charged particles.
 I wonder if that explanation is a convenient approximation.  In my reading
so far I have only seen EM radiation come from electrons and nuclei.

About attenuation, I've been wondering how to get from 8 MeV or something
in this range to the 50 to 100 keV that Andrea Rossi mentioned to the
government employee in Florida (I'm just using his numbers as a
representative example).  I'm hoping to figure out how EM radiation at
these lower energies might be fed into a self-sustaining thermodynamic
system that yields energy primarily in the form of soft x-rays and EUV.
 For my own thinking I am currently exploring conventional reactions such
as 2p -> 2He -> 2H + e+ + v.  Note that 50 to 100 keV are hard x-rays.  If
this is a characteristic range, I do not imagine that you would want to
keep an unshielded LENR reactor in your closet.

I am optimistic about the attenuation problem; this might be due to having
recently read enough phys.org articles to appreciate that there are some
truly weird electromagnetic phenomena, especially at the quantum level.
 Microwaves on the order of 12cm cause a resonance in tiny water molecules.
 Lightening gives rise to EM radiation in the range of 10 to 500 Hz, at
wavelengths of 30,000 to 600 km.  And nano-sized electric components emit
radio-frequency signals.  I am hoping there might be some similar weirdness
in reverse, such that a fusion event can be coerced into releasing
lower-frequency radiation, or its byproducts can be safely wound down.
 There is a field called nonlinear optics, which includes a number of
interesting leads:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_electrodynamics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_parametric_down_conversion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodyne#Optical_heterodyning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_amplification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulational_instability

I imagine that it is unlikely given the relative sizes involved, but there
might even be some kind of gamma ray optics going on.

I don't know about the proton ensemble.  Do protons ever act in concert
like that outside of a nucleus?  Do they emit radiation?

Eric

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