Jones,
Although I could believe that a tiny amount of magneotcaloric effect is taking place in the Newman/Bedini/etc etc devices, I claim it would be undetectable certainly by any such method as Jean-Louis is using. Magnetic cooling of the type I presume you are describing requires a cyclic heat source & sink. Where is this is the Newman machine? If you believe http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae488.cfm for example, assuming you get a 1C change per Tesla in copper wire (where JNL measured the temp) JNL would need about 2Kgauss for his measured temperature change. I doubt that this is the flux dens. at the outer surface of his coil. Most magnetocaloric experiments are performed with time constants (between sucessive orient/disorient cycles) far lower than the frequencies at which the flux is changing the the Newman coil.
cheers - George Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jones Beene wrote:

George,

Yes. I absolutely believe that Naudin measured an
actual and accurate (tiny) heat loss, and in a
situation where there should have been a rather strong
heating effect ... Is this remarkable?

No! not really, and it does not verify the Newman
motor as being an anomaly either, or cohering ZPE.

BTW This kind of measurement is not rocket science,
and would not benefit in the least from expensive and
careful calorimetry, which would only affirm the
situation. It is real, explainable, and there is a
definite small repeatable heat loss.
The problem is in the interpretation.

Consequently, I do not believe it is evidence of
anything anomalous, beyond the well-known magnetocaloric effect, which itself is not gainful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocaloric

But that is not how you phrased you previous comment,
George  ;-)

I assume that what you meant to say is that you have
seen no evidence of an anomalous heat loss which was
in excess of the well-know magnetocaloric effect..."

... not that I am one to quibble over minutiae, but
Steven Lawrence hasn't posted in a while and we
someone to take up the slack ...
J.




--- George Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jones,
   If this is considered proper calorimetry, we're
in serious trouble. I would suggest checking out http://fluidproperties.nist.gov/cvht.html for a NIST fluid calorimeter or even http://earthtech.org/capabilities/dual/ for example calorimeters in which one could have a high degree of confidence. Would you recommend making an investment based on Jean-Louis' heat
measurements?
cheers - George Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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