George Hathaway wrote:

Thomas,
    I know of no "free energy" devices which originally claimed they
became cooler while operating and which actually demonstrated this fact
under controlled conditions. This includes Newman, Sweet, MEG and variants, Fogal "transistor" and many others.

I'm afraid that you've destroyed one of my most cherished beliefs.

None of these inventors has bothered to set up even a rudimentary calorimeter other than simply putting a single thermocouple (or one's hand) on some arbitrary part of a device without adequate insulation, calibration, knowledge of heat flow, etc etc. It's a complete mug's game. Hastings did just the most rudimentary, short-term examination with a single thermocouple without adequate insulation, as far as I recall.

Roger admits that the observation was just anecdotal.

I investigated the Newman device shortly after Hastings and found no such thermal anomaly (although the apparent battery recharging phenomenon was intriguing for a while until I realized what was actually happening). A major complicating factor was that Newman's earliest prototypes used large fan blades (~2.5' dia) as "loads". This can easily give the impression that the room is getting cooler, even if you are not in the fan's draft.

I'll mention this matter to him next time we talk.

Did you receive my admonition regarding "Professor" Szabo's EBM in Hungary?

Of course, I don't need the aggravation of scraping egg off of my face. I changed my tact to installing a water whirler (Schauberger Vortex) in one of Minneapolis' lakes.

Cheers - George Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BTW, C to C AM rebroadcast the Hunt for the Skinwalker segment this morning. It pegged my weirdness meter once again.



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