Josh,

I'm going to do a roll-through on my other Win2K system just to verify this.  I
have had no problems with running VNC on a Win2K server in precisely the fashion
you are talking about (for the same reasons), but I vaguely recall having to
jump through some hoops the first time I did it and I may be instinctively doing
something I am not remembering off the top of my head... since I'm trying to get
documentation available for this, I want to do a walk-through.

Also, if it comes down to it, Bittnet *does* do support for installs which can
be performed remotely; for things like this, we usually work out a reasonable
flat fee.. :-)

I will follow up with details on what I find my walk-through either later
tonight or tomorrow.  Also, could you pass on a couple of other pieces of
information just to verify them:

(1) Is the Win2K system running TS in Remote Admin mode or Application Server
mode?

(2) Which version of WinVNC are you using? The last AT&T release is OK, but the
best is TightVNC (http://www.tightvnc.com).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 2002-04-21 20:18
Subject: RE: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?


> Alex,
>
> Thanks again, I followed your instructions meticulously but still back
> to square one.  When I start the service, it doesn't ask for a password.
> My hunch is that I will have to through in the towel on VNC.  I just am
> not convinced it works as a service in Windows 2000.  If I run it
> manually (or in the start menu), it works fine.  I wanted to run it as a
> service.
>
> Perhaps at some point I can hire someone to try the install?  I need a
> backup program to Terminal Services and PC Anywhere won't cut it.
> Everyone recommends VNC but I am losing faith in this program.
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alex K.
> Angelopoulos
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?
>
> Yes, let's try to cut to the chase and just reset everything in VNC; it
> might be
> interesting to find exactly how it got in that state, but it will be
> frustrating
> (and also pointless from your viewpoint, since it will be much faster to
> just do
> it from scratch).
>
> (1) Uninstall again from the server console.
>
> (2) Run regedit and do a search for all keys named exactly: ORL. Delete
> the
> entire key each time.
>
> The places it will probably be at this point are:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL
>
> HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\ORL
>
> It may be also under each and every SID key within HKEY_USERS; by
> looking for a
> key folder with the name ORL we will make sure we find them all.
>
> (3) Make sure we've pulled out every trace of the service; the key it is
> under
> is:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\winvnc
>
> Just delete anything left there after the uninstall.
>
> (4) As insurance, make sure that WinVNC is not listed in the services
> either
> anymore.
>
> (5) Delete the C:\Program Files\ORL folder.
>
> (6) Reboot.
>
> (7) Follow my first set of instructions for installing.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, 2002-04-21 19:05
> Subject: RE: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?
>
>
> > Alex,
> >
> > Thanks for your help.  We are narrowing it down.  I've done what you
> > said, but when I start the service, it doesn't ask for my password, it
> > just starts.  I then get the same message about no password from my
> > client.  Are my registry settings corrupt?  Can or should I delete
> them
> > and try the reinstall?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alex K.
> > Angelopoulos
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 3:28 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?
> >
> > The "Install registry settings" is not well-named.   The particular
> > settings it
> > installs are for user-mode helper operation - which is not what you
> want
> > unless
> > you would like to have different passwords required any time a
> different
> > user is
> > logged on.  Here's what I would do.
> >
> > (1) Go to the server's physical console and completely uninstall
> WinVNC.
> >
> > (2) Reinstall, don't add the default registry settings.
> >
> > (3) Go back into VNC/Administrative Tools and select "Install WinVNC
> > Service".
> > This sets it up as a service and configures it to automatically start,
> > but does
> > not configure a password. *Do not* reboot.
> >
> > (4) Open the Services applet (inside the Computer Management applet as
> > well as
> > other locations on Win2000) and start the WinVNC service.
> >
> > (5) As the service starts, it will  pop up the warning about no
> default
> > password
> > for the system.  Type in the password and it should now function the
> way
> > you
> > want.
> >
> > As a check, if you go back into the registry and look at:
> >
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default
> >
> > you will see that it does have the binary password value entered.  If
> > you
> > restart now, you will see that VNC is running as a service and enables
> > you to
> > log on with the default password.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Josh Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, 2002-04-21 14:03
> > Subject: RE: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?
> >
> >
> > > Alex,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply.  I checked it and it did say "no value set."
> > > However, my attempts to follow what you said didn't work.  So, I
> > > uninstalled VNC, rebooted, and reinstalled.  I can now get it tow
> work
> > > if I don't run it as a service.  The minute I install the service, I
> > get
> > > the same problem.  I did run the "Install registry settings too."
> > >
> > > Any good instructions on how to resolve the running as a service
> > issue?
> > >
> > > I am running Windows 2000 server SP2
> > >
> > > Josh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alex K.
> > > Angelopoulos
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:49 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?
> > >
> > > You may not have a valid default password for the situation when
> your
> > > user
> > > account is not logged in - this is a problem if you have run the
> > service
> > > helper
> > > stuff.  Check that a password entry exists in the following registry
> > > location:
> > >
> > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default
> > >
> > > There should be a binary value named "Password".
> > >
> > > If there is not, log in directly as the account under which you set
> up
> > > the
> > > password, then export the password from the following location:
> > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3
> > >
> > > Change the REG file header to point to the HKLM default location I
> > > mentioned
> > > first, import it, and you should be OK.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Josh Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 2002-04-21 10:24
> > > Subject: HelP! Server does not have a valid password enabled?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am new to the list but let me get right to my issue.  I setup
> VNC
> > on
> > > > Windows 2000 server which also runs Terminal Server.  I installed
> > the
> > > > service, and the icon shows up.  I went in and set a password.
> > > However,
> > > > whenever I try to connect with VNC viewer on another machine I get
> > > > "Server does not have a valid password enabled."  I have reset the
> > > > password a dozen times and I have even uninstalled and reinstalled
> > > VNC.
> > > > Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
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