So how do I go about XP activation on Solaris 8 (sparc)? Is it enough to sit the un-opened box next to my workstation?
Oooops, I suppose I need to remove the shrink-wrap and break the seal on the CD's to "legally" accept the EULA! But by accepting the EULA I must accept the activation requirements which even by telephone cannot be completed because the OS is not installable and the required information not available. Lawyers have a word for these types of contractual clauses -- UNENFORCEABLE! If a license requirement causes you not to be able to meet other license requirements then why sweat it. MS as usual has on their Wintel blinders and would have to drop either the activation requirement or write Remote Desktop Connection / Terminal Server versions for all OS's that could connect to an XP desktop from a TCP/IP network. This would be a great test case! On another front, if you connect to a network and the XP PC is capable of sharing more than 10 networked XP-based devices, i.e. disks, printers, servers, etc., you *MUST* run XP Professional. You cannot legally connect through dial-up to an XP server on most office network from home using XP Home due to this restriction. Technically, once there are more than 10 XP-based web servers on the internet, you will no longer be able to legally surf the net with XP Home because you *COULD* connect to more than 10 XP devices which is in violation of the EULA! Enjoy your VNC connections with impunity. The real crime was committed by the lawyers that wrote this EULA tripe to begin with and the MS Execs who approved it. Glenn Lovitz -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Milette Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: Timeout Problem with XP - firewall not the problem 1) I can only assume that it must lock out the display, keyboard and mouse on the client PC, essentially disabling access to the host PC locally until the remote session is done. This is what Microsoft does with their Remote Desktop Connection. 2) Read the last two lines of the license passage quoted in the original message below. There is actually nothing illegal about using any kind of remote access software including VNC, PCAnywhere, etc. All their saying is that you need to have a separate license for "the Product" on each "device". Therefore, if you have two XP licenses, you can use VNC to take over the screen of your XP machine. Upon further reading, it would also seem that you need additional licenses for every software package you intend to run remotely too. If you want to use Office from a remote location, you will need a second license for each location. This is the same kind of license that Microsoft has been trying to enforce since they introduced the first version of Terminal Server, the underlying technology behind their Remote Desktop Connection. All things considered, it seems that Microsoft has actually eased up on their licensing by allowing you to use the build it Terminal Services from any other machine without actually requiring you to purchase a second license. As long as you use their products. As long as you use their products. Do I agree with all of this? Of course not. In my opinion Microsoft is playing both sides of the fence. On one hand, they are saying that each user needs to have a license to use their software. This is like saying that each user of the family Ford (the PC) will have to pay a user fee to Ford (Microsoft). And when Microsoft's .Net come out (already included in a lot of XP by the way), it sounds like their new policy will be "Sorry, we don't sell the car anymore. Now you will have to pay for it for ever and upgrade when we need more of your money". Now I understand why I might need 5 MS Office licenses for a machine that can only have one user at a time... NOT! On the other hand, Microsoft is also saying that each machine needs to have a non-transferable license. This is like saying, ok, I bought a house (the PC), I filled it with all my furniture (the OS) and now I want to move into a new house (a new PC) but they won't let me move my furniture (the OS) to the new house. What exactly is the point? It's not like the PC has a life expectancy of 30 years. Even cars have a life expectancy which is at least double that of a PC. Eventually I will most likely want to run software on my machine and find that it is no longer compatible with my operating system or the operating system is not compatible with some hardware upgrade I want to do. Then and only then should I have to upgrade my operating system. What does this all mean? An extra XP license is required to remotely access your PC using any applications other than the "Excepted" Microsoft products listed. Not only that but will need an extra XP license for *each* machine you use to access your PC remotely. I kid you not. I was shocked to I learned this. Lets say you want to access your PC from work and then you want to access your PC on the road from a laptop. You will need two extra XP licenses, one for the PC at work and one for the laptop. Hopefully the company always lends you the same laptop otherwise you will need an XP license for *each* one they lend you. Of course Microsoft will try to show you the bright side and tell you that once you have the XP license, YOU can access as many XP host machines as you want. But don't you dare lend your buddy the laptop or else he/she will need XP licenses too. The licenses are per-user per-device. All this is as such unless you are running XP on all your machines. Then you are covered as long as you are using it for single user access. I haven't even begun to touch the issue of having multiple people remotely time share a single PC nor the licensing of the applications themselves. It gets easier and easier to believe how there could be and are consultants who actually make a decent living just helping corporations figure out Microsoft licensing. It's a whole industry of its own and easily a full time job as Microsoft seems to make changes when ever they feel their cash flow is slowing down. Small changes, taking it one step at a time, slowly turning the world into their personal wallet ;). _________________________________ The Bottom Line From Microsoft perspective, unless you are using a 100% Microsoft throughout your system, if you have to ask the question, you probably can't afford the solution. So what operating system do I use? As with many in the world, I use Windows. I may not agree with Microsoft policies but its hard to get away from their products. However, at least for now, I still have control of when my operating system and applications get upgraded. Michael Milette At 07:14 AM 2001-12-11, you wrote: >on http://www.symantec.com/pcanywhere/Consumer/ >they write pcanywhere can be used on XP. Is this legal? > > > "Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, > > and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the > > Product to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other > > executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may > > you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product > > or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate > > license for the Product." 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