Slashdot.org, circa 2006: Microsoft announced today the release of Windows PUO (the PU stands for Pay Us Often.) It is most notable for its vastly simplified license agreement - the new release ships with a short 500-page EULA that is rumored to require only one new license to be purchased for every mouse click. Read More... (435 of 19042 comments)
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 11:16, Michael Milette wrote: > 1) I can only assume that it must lock out the display, keyboard and mouse > on the client PC, essentially disabling access to the host PC locally until > the remote session is done. This is what Microsoft does with their Remote > Desktop Connection. > > 2) Read the last two lines of the license passage quoted in the original > message below. There is actually nothing illegal about using any kind of > remote access software including VNC, PCAnywhere, etc. All their saying is > that you need to have a separate license for "the Product" on each > "device". Therefore, if you have two XP licenses, you can use VNC to take > over the screen of your XP machine. Upon further reading, it would also > seem that you need additional licenses for every software package you > intend to run remotely too. If you want to use Office from a remote > location, you will need a second license for each location. This is the > same kind of license that Microsoft has been trying to enforce since they > introduced the first version of Terminal Server, the underlying technology > behind their Remote Desktop Connection. All things considered, it seems > that Microsoft has actually eased up on their licensing by allowing you to > use the build it Terminal Services from any other machine without actually > requiring you to purchase a second license. As long as you use their > products. As long as you use their products. > > Do I agree with all of this? Of course not. In my opinion Microsoft is > playing both sides of the fence. > > On one hand, they are saying that each user needs to have a license to use > their software. This is like saying that each user of the family Ford (the > PC) will have to pay a user fee to Ford (Microsoft). And when Microsoft's > .Net come out (already included in a lot of XP by the way), it sounds like > their new policy will be "Sorry, we don't sell the car anymore. Now you > will have to pay for it for ever and upgrade when we need more of your > money". Now I understand why I might need 5 MS Office licenses for a > machine that can only have one user at a time... NOT! > > On the other hand, Microsoft is also saying that each machine needs to have > a non-transferable license. This is like saying, ok, I bought a house (the > PC), I filled it with all my furniture (the OS) and now I want to move into > a new house (a new PC) but they won't let me move my furniture (the OS) to > the new house. What exactly is the point? It's not like the PC has a life > expectancy of 30 years. Even cars have a life expectancy which is at least > double that of a PC. Eventually I will most likely want to run software on > my machine and find that it is no longer compatible with my operating > system or the operating system is not compatible with some hardware upgrade > I want to do. Then and only then should I have to upgrade my operating system. > > What does this all mean? An extra XP license is required to remotely access > your PC using any applications other than the "Excepted" Microsoft products > listed. Not only that but will need an extra XP license for *each* machine > you use to access your PC remotely. I kid you not. I was shocked to I > learned this. Lets say you want to access your PC from work and then you > want to access your PC on the road from a laptop. You will need two extra > XP licenses, one for the PC at work and one for the laptop. Hopefully the > company always lends you the same laptop otherwise you will need an XP > license for *each* one they lend you. Of course Microsoft will try to show > you the bright side and tell you that once you have the XP license, YOU can > access as many XP host machines as you want. But don't you dare lend your > buddy the laptop or else he/she will need XP licenses too. The licenses are > per-user per-device. All this is as such unless you are running XP on all > your machines. Then you are covered as long as you are using it for single > user access. I haven't even begun to touch the issue of having multiple > people remotely time share a single PC nor the licensing of the > applications themselves. > > It gets easier and easier to believe how there could be and are consultants > who actually make a decent living just helping corporations figure out > Microsoft licensing. It's a whole industry of its own and easily a full > time job as Microsoft seems to make changes when ever they feel their cash > flow is slowing down. Small changes, taking it one step at a time, slowly > turning the world into their personal wallet ;). > > _________________________________ > The Bottom Line > > From Microsoft perspective, unless you are using a 100% Microsoft > throughout your system, if you have to ask the question, you probably can't > afford the solution. > > So what operating system do I use? As with many in the world, I use > Windows. I may not agree with Microsoft policies but its hard to get away > from their products. However, at least for now, I still have control of > when my operating system and applications get upgraded. > > Michael Milette > > At 07:14 AM 2001-12-11, you wrote: > >on http://www.symantec.com/pcanywhere/Consumer/ > >they write pcanywhere can be used on XP. Is this legal? > > > > > "Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, > > > and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the > > > Product to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other > > > executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may > > > you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product > > > or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate > > > license for the Product." 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